APL, )RESET in APL+WIN 3.0

)RESET in APL+WIN 3.0

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Tim Swanke #1 / 7	)RESET in APL+WIN 3.0 I want to be able to do the equivalent of )RESET from inside a program. Back in the APL*PLUS III days, I could do 7 []POKE 165, and it performed this task and untied files as well. Any suggestions on how to do this in APL+WIN 3.0 would be appreciated. Thanks, Tim
Mon, 30 Jul 2001 03:00:00 GMT

D E Sieg #2 / 7	)RESET in APL+WIN 3.0 Quote: >I want to be able to do the equivalent of )RESET from inside a program. >Back in the APL*PLUS III days, I could do 7 []POKE 165, and it performed >this task and untied files as well. Any suggestions on how to do this in >APL+WIN 3.0 would be >appreciated. >Thanks, >Tim Well, you can close all forms and windows objects with '#' []wi 'Reset' but that is not exactly what you are after. You could save a clear workspace and load itr under program control, but I don't think that this is exactly what you want either. I don't know any method of doing a a )Reset under program control. What is your purpose? Perhaps soemthing less drastic would serve? -David E. Siegel
Tue, 31 Jul 2001 03:00:00 GMT

Tim Swanke #3 / 7	)RESET in APL+WIN 3.0 My purpose is just to make life a bit simpler, save a few keystrokes. My APLPLUS III function, called "Die", had that one []POKE command, and it simply put my workspace back in order quickly and easily. Very helpful after a function bombs. Edit the offending function, fix the whoopsie, CTRL-E, type Die, and you're ready to try the program again. Quote: >>I want to be able to do the equivalent of )RESET from inside a program. >>Back in the APLPLUS III days, I could do 7 []POKE 165, and it performed >>this task and untied files as well. Any suggestions on how to do this in >>APL+WIN 3.0 would be >>appreciated. >>Thanks, >>Tim >Well, you can close all forms and windows objects with '#' []wi 'Reset' but >that is not exactly what you are after. >You could save a clear workspace and load itr under program control, but I >don't think that this is exactly what you want either. >I don't know any method of doing a a )Reset under program control. What is >your purpose? Perhaps soemthing less drastic would serve? > -David E. Siegel
Thu, 02 Aug 2001 03:00:00 GMT

Joe Burpe #4 / 7	)RESET in APL+WIN 3.0 Quote: > My purpose is just to make life a bit simpler, save a few keystrokes. My > APLPLUS III function, called "Die", had that one []POKE command, and it > simply put my workspace back in order quickly and easily. Very helpful > after a function bombs. Edit the offending function, fix the whoopsie, > CTRL-E, type Die, and you're ready to try the program again. If that's all you want, why not really save keystrokes and just type a single right-arrow {branch} followed by Enter key, of course. Actually I'd almost forgotten about this stuff. I got attached to Dyalog's interactive de{filter*} years ago. One mouse-click beats one keystroke. Oops. I notice you wanted to close files too. One approach is to include in your function initialization a simple line like [1] []nuntie []nnums <> []funtie []fnums or you could make it more selective. A real old-time solution was to put this stuff on a function key, complete with carriage returns. One keystroke. I guess the modern equivalent is a menu item. -- Joe
Fri, 03 Aug 2001 03:00:00 GMT

D E Sieg #5 / 7	)RESET in APL+WIN 3.0 Quote: >If that's all you want, why not really save keystrokes and just type a >single right-arrow > {branch} >followed by Enter key, of course. >Actually I'd almost forgotten about this stuff. I got attached to >Dyalog's interactive de{filter} years ago. One mouse-click beats one >keystroke. >Oops. I notice you wanted to close files too. One approach is to >include in your function initialization a simple line like > [1] []nuntie []nnums <> []funtie []fnums >or you could make it more selective. >A real old-time solution was to put this stuff on a function key, >complete with carriage returns. One keystroke. I guess the modern >equivalent is a menu item. >-- >Joe In APL+Win such a sequenbce can be assigned as a "tool" which can be invoked either from a menu or any specifed hotkey, such as a fn key. My personal tool list includes "Run Worksapce" (Executes the current latent expression) "Win Reset" (Does '#' []wi 'Reset') and "Checkout function (in our local version control system) amoung other things. Each of these is available from a single key-combo (shifted or alted keystroke) -David E. Siegel
Sun, 05 Aug 2001 03:00:00 GMT

Adrian Smit #6 / 7	)RESET in APL+WIN 3.0 <A real old-time solution was to put this stuff on a function key, complete with carriage returns. One keystroke. I guess the modern equivalent is a menu item Old-time solutions are often more effective than the fancy new tools! Like David, I have various bits of useful stuff on function keys in +Win, and dl,')reset',er,'[]EX''.''',er,')save' on a very similar key in Dyalog (for <dl> read 'down limit' to get the cursor to the end of the session before typing anything). Similarly, I find that a good old 'WsLoc' which echos to the session is several orders of magnitude more efficient than poking about with the mouse in some fancy 'Search Workspace' tool. -- Adrian Smith
Sun, 05 Aug 2001 03:00:00 GMT

Joe Burpe #7 / 7	)RESET in APL+WIN 3.0 Your comments are interesting, Adrian, but I'm afraid I may have been unclear in my original message. My observation was essentially chronological; I certainly do not promote modernity for it's own sake. On the contrary, I guess I might have added an emoticon to denote a hint of sarcasm in my usage of "modern". As I understand it, an essential test of an interface is the degree to which choice of appropriate device (key-vs-pointer, menu-vs-button, console-vs-graphic, etc.) is in the hands of the user. This I think is completely consistent with APL's traditional flexibility and generality, and somewhat at odds with the only-one-right-way mentality one finds elsewhere. For example, I was pleased to find access to the familiar readline control keys in a J console/xterm under Linux, but I'm certainly not above using KDE's Windows-ish "abominations" when the need arises. ;-) At any rate, I have some sympathy regarding your remarks about effectiveness and efficiency. But I assume your "several orders of magnitude" must have been intended as a bit of hyperbole for emphasis. It is quite inconsistent with my experience with recent Dyalog APL, in particular. And, if by "fancy" you mean to imply "frivolous", I am puzzled. Joe Quote: > <A real old-time solution was to put this stuff on a function key, > complete with carriage returns. One keystroke. I guess the modern > equivalent is a menu item > Old-time solutions are often more effective than the fancy new tools! Like > David, I have various bits of useful stuff on function keys in +Win, and > dl,')reset',er,'[]EX''.''',er,')save' on a very similar key in Dyalog (for <dl> > read 'down limit' to get the cursor to the end of the session before typing > anything). Similarly, I find that a good old 'WsLoc' which echos to the session > is several orders of magnitude more efficient than poking about with the mouse > in some fancy 'Search Workspace' tool. > -- > Adrian Smith
Mon, 06 Aug 2001 03:00:00 GMT

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