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Brian S. Boy
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 Windows CE 3.0 Hello, I have the MSDN Universal Subscription, but cannot find the Windows CE 3.0 OS.
I'm looking to port an application that I've developed on NT using VB, and would
like to use the CE 3.0.
Have I overlooked it? If not, how can I get ahold of it.
Thanks for your help,
Brian
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| Sat, 10 May 2003 03:00:00 GMT |
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Steve Maille
#2 / 7
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Windows CE 3.0 The OS per se isn't there. You can use the eMbedded Visual Tools and a Windows CE device or the desktop emulation environment to develop apps for Windows CE devices. --
Steve Maillet
Entelechy Software Consulting
smaillet 'AT' EntelechyConsulting 'DOT' com
http://www.EntelechyConsulting.com
Hello,
I have the MSDN Universal Subscription, but cannot find the Windows CE 3.0
OS.
I'm looking to port an application that I've developed on NT using VB, and
would
like to use the CE 3.0.
Have I overlooked it? If not, how can I get ahold of it.
Thanks for your help,
Brian
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| Sat, 10 May 2003 03:00:00 GMT |
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Brian S. Boy
#3 / 7
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Windows CE 3.0 Thanks for your quick response, Steve. So, as I understand you, Windows CE 3.0 is actually contained within the eMbedded
Visual Tools. Can you verify that I understand you correctly?
Quote: -----Original Message----- The OS per se isn't there. You can use the eMbedded Visual Tools and a
Windows CE device or the desktop emulation environment to develop apps for
Windows CE devices.
--
Steve Maillet
Entelechy Software Consulting
smaillet 'AT' EntelechyConsulting 'DOT' com
http://www.EntelechyConsulting.com
Hello,
I have the MSDN Universal Subscription, but cannot find the Windows CE 3.0
OS.
I'm looking to port an application that I've developed on NT using VB, and
would
like to use the CE 3.0.
Have I overlooked it? If not, how can I get ahold of it.
Thanks for your help,
Brian
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| Sat, 10 May 2003 03:00:00 GMT |
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Eric
#4 / 7
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Windows CE 3.0 There is a CE Emulator which is included with the SDK, and it requires you be running NT. The OS isn't actually there it's just an emulator. Windows CE runs as an embedded operating system on devices. Get a hold of a device of the same type you wish to port your application to (get an MIPS H/PC if you plan to port it to an MIPS H/PC, a PPC if you'll be using a PPC etc...) and you can run your program on the device. If you want to port something to WinCE it means you probably will be running on a handheld so the best way to test it is to test it on a handheld. It's not like you can just boot up WinCE on a PC although there is an intel port out there I forget from whom, I'd not trust it if you will be deploying the application.
Thanks for your quick response, Steve.
So, as I understand you, Windows CE 3.0 is actually contained within the
eMbedded
Visual Tools. Can you verify that I understand you correctly?
Quote: -----Original Message----- The OS per se isn't there. You can use the eMbedded Visual Tools and a
Windows CE device or the desktop emulation environment to develop apps for
Windows CE devices.
--
Steve Maillet
Entelechy Software Consulting
smaillet 'AT' EntelechyConsulting 'DOT' com
http://www.EntelechyConsulting.com
Hello,
I have the MSDN Universal Subscription, but cannot find the Windows CE 3.0
OS.
I'm looking to port an application that I've developed on NT using VB, and
would
like to use the CE 3.0.
Have I overlooked it? If not, how can I get ahold of it.
Thanks for your help,
Brian
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| Sat, 10 May 2003 03:00:00 GMT |
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Brian S. Boy
#5 / 7
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Windows CE 3.0 Hey Steve, Thanks for your responses, although I think that we have a disconnect on my
question.
I currently have a device, but it only has WinCE 2.1. I've developed some VB
apps for this device using VB, and am familiar with the process of development.
I'm looking to upgrade this device to WinCE 3.0, but am unable to find the WinCE
3.0 OS.
Does this clarify my question?
Thanks again,
Brian
Quote: -----Original Message----- There is a CE Emulator which is included with the SDK, and it requires you
be running NT. The OS isn't actually there it's just an emulator. Windows CE
runs as an embedded operating system on devices. Get a hold of a device of
the same type you wish to port your application to (get an MIPS H/PC if you
plan to port it to an MIPS H/PC, a PPC if you'll be using a PPC etc...) and
you can run your program on the device.
If you want to port something to WinCE it means you probably will be running
on a handheld so the best way to test it is to test it on a handheld.
It's not like you can just boot up WinCE on a PC although there is an intel
port out there I forget from whom, I'd not trust it if you will be deploying
the application.
Thanks for your quick response, Steve.
So, as I understand you, Windows CE 3.0 is actually contained within the
eMbedded
Visual Tools. Can you verify that I understand you correctly?
-----Original Message-----
The OS per se isn't there. You can use the eMbedded Visual Tools and a
Windows CE device or the desktop emulation environment to develop apps for
Windows CE devices.
--
Steve Maillet
Entelechy Software Consulting
smaillet 'AT' EntelechyConsulting 'DOT' com
http://www.EntelechyConsulting.com
Hello,
I have the MSDN Universal Subscription, but cannot find the Windows CE 3.0
OS.
I'm looking to port an application that I've developed on NT using VB, and
would
like to use the CE 3.0.
Have I overlooked it? If not, how can I get ahold of it.
Thanks for your help,
Brian
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| Fri, 16 May 2003 03:00:00 GMT |
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Steve Maille
#6 / 7
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Windows CE 3.0 Yes it does clarify. You MUST go to the device manufacturers for that upgrade. Each version of the OS is in ROM and customized to that specific device configuration. The OS is therefore not made available as a general upgrade. And unfortunately very few vendors support an upgrade plan to V3.0. --
Steve Maillet
Entelechy Software Consulting
smaillet 'AT' EntelechyConsulting 'DOT' com
http://www.EntelechyConsulting.com
Hey Steve,
Thanks for your responses, although I think that we have a disconnect on my
question.
I currently have a device, but it only has WinCE 2.1. I've developed some
VB
apps for this device using VB, and am familiar with the process of
development.
I'm looking to upgrade this device to WinCE 3.0, but am unable to find the
WinCE
3.0 OS.
Does this clarify my question?
Thanks again,
Brian
Quote: -----Original Message----- There is a CE Emulator which is included with the SDK, and it requires you
be running NT. The OS isn't actually there it's just an emulator. Windows CE
runs as an embedded operating system on devices. Get a hold of a device of
the same type you wish to port your application to (get an MIPS H/PC if you
plan to port it to an MIPS H/PC, a PPC if you'll be using a PPC etc...) and
you can run your program on the device.
If you want to port something to WinCE it means you probably will be running
on a handheld so the best way to test it is to test it on a handheld.
It's not like you can just boot up WinCE on a PC although there is an intel
port out there I forget from whom, I'd not trust it if you will be deploying
the application.
Thanks for your quick response, Steve.
So, as I understand you, Windows CE 3.0 is actually contained within the
eMbedded
Visual Tools. Can you verify that I understand you correctly?
-----Original Message-----
The OS per se isn't there. You can use the eMbedded Visual Tools and a
Windows CE device or the desktop emulation environment to develop apps for
Windows CE devices.
--
Steve Maillet
Entelechy Software Consulting
smaillet 'AT' EntelechyConsulting 'DOT' com
http://www.EntelechyConsulting.com
Hello,
I have the MSDN Universal Subscription, but cannot find the Windows CE 3.0
OS.
I'm looking to port an application that I've developed on NT using VB, and
would
like to use the CE 3.0.
Have I overlooked it? If not, how can I get ahold of it.
Thanks for your help,
Brian
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| Sat, 17 May 2003 03:00:00 GMT |
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Thomas Hal
#7 / 7
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Windows CE 3.0 Hi Brian, You'll need to contact the original equipment manufacturer (OEM) to
determine whether or not you can upgrade your device from WinCE 2.1 to WinCE
3.0. Let me explain. The WinCE 2.1 OS image on your device was built by
the OEM using a Windows CE operating system builder (probably Microsoft's
Platform Builder). In order for the OEM to build a WinCE image, the
operating system builder must be configured for a target processor. Refer
to white paper 'Understanding Modularity in Microsoft Windows CE 2.1'
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/techart/modularity.htm for a complete
background. Each processor submitted to Microsoft by the chip manufacturer
goes through verification testing for EACH version of Windows CE. Just
because a processor works with WinCE 2.1 does not mean it will work with
WinCE 3.0. If the OEM chooses to upgrade the device from previous version
of WinCE, they must ensure backward compatibility with any hardware features
built into the device (for example, bar-code scan engine drivers). As an
application developer, you probably won't be building customized versions of
the operating system.
Hope this helps,
Tom Hall
Hey Steve,
Thanks for your responses, although I think that we have a disconnect on my
question.
I currently have a device, but it only has WinCE 2.1. I've developed some
VB
apps for this device using VB, and am familiar with the process of
development.
I'm looking to upgrade this device to WinCE 3.0, but am unable to find the
WinCE
3.0 OS.
Does this clarify my question?
Thanks again,
Brian
Quote: -----Original Message----- There is a CE Emulator which is included with the SDK, and it requires you
be running NT. The OS isn't actually there it's just an emulator. Windows CE
runs as an embedded operating system on devices. Get a hold of a device of
the same type you wish to port your application to (get an MIPS H/PC if you
plan to port it to an MIPS H/PC, a PPC if you'll be using a PPC etc...) and
you can run your program on the device.
If you want to port something to WinCE it means you probably will be running
on a handheld so the best way to test it is to test it on a handheld.
It's not like you can just boot up WinCE on a PC although there is an intel
port out there I forget from whom, I'd not trust it if you will be deploying
the application.
Thanks for your quick response, Steve.
So, as I understand you, Windows CE 3.0 is actually contained within the
eMbedded
Visual Tools. Can you verify that I understand you correctly?
-----Original Message-----
The OS per se isn't there. You can use the eMbedded Visual Tools and a
Windows CE device or the desktop emulation environment to develop apps for
Windows CE devices.
--
Steve Maillet
Entelechy Software Consulting
smaillet 'AT' EntelechyConsulting 'DOT' com
http://www.EntelechyConsulting.com
Hello,
I have the MSDN Universal Subscription, but cannot find the Windows CE 3.0
OS.
I'm looking to port an application that I've developed on NT using VB, and
would
like to use the CE 3.0.
Have I overlooked it? If not, how can I get ahold of it.
Thanks for your help,
Brian
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