> For example, I just made a managed C++ application and modified
> the default template code to the following:

> // This is the entry point for this application
> int _tmain(void)
> {
>      char MyBuffer[128]="Hello World";
>      int len=strlen(MyBuffer);
>      strcpy(MyBuffer, "Hello to you too");
>      len=strlen(MyBuffer);

>      return 0;
> }

> Now if I single run this and stop at any point, but lets
> take the return for examples sake here is my dilemma.

> In the locals window I have the following:

>    Name              Value               Type
>    len               16                  __int32
> +                   {length=128}        char[]

> As you can see, 'MyBuffer' isn't displayed, and what is in it
> is useless from a debugging point of view.  If I hover the mouse
> over the variable it shows the same value.  Expanding the + shows
> the contents byte by byte.

> This is just a simple example, but things like link lists don't
> know about their location and don't expand so are impossible to
> peruse.

> I've hunted through the IDE settings, installed on two computers,
> one with XP and the other with Win2K.  I've reinstalled etc, but
> to no avail.  Another friend who also has this has no issues, and
> the only difference that might be of consequence is that I also
> have Watcom C++ installed on both machines I've tried on.

> The de{*filter*} has a much harder time with release builds, because the
> code is optimized.

> --
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

>>I've got a problem when trying to debug code in that I can't
>>see what is in a lot of variables.

>>For example, I just made a managed C++ application and modified
>>the default template code to the following:

>>// This is the entry point for this application
>>int _tmain(void)
>>{
>>     char MyBuffer[128]="Hello World";
>>     int len=strlen(MyBuffer);
>>     strcpy(MyBuffer, "Hello to you too");
>>     len=strlen(MyBuffer);

>>     return 0;
>>}

>>Now if I single run this and stop at any point, but lets
>>take the return for examples sake here is my dilemma.

>>In the locals window I have the following:

>>   Name              Value               Type
>>   len               16                  __int32
>>+                   {length=128}        char[]

>>As you can see, 'MyBuffer' isn't displayed, and what is in it
>>is useless from a debugging point of view.  If I hover the mouse
>>over the variable it shows the same value.  Expanding the + shows
>>the contents byte by byte.

>>This is just a simple example, but things like link lists don't
>>know about their location and don't expand so are impossible to
>>peruse.

>>I've hunted through the IDE settings, installed on two computers,
>>one with XP and the other with Win2K.  I've reinstalled etc, but
>>to no avail.  Another friend who also has this has no issues, and
>>the only difference that might be of consequence is that I also
>>have Watcom C++ installed on both machines I've tried on.

> So, is this a bug, by design, or is there a way to
> get around the problem?  And if it's a bug, when
> would a fix be available?

> Thanks, Josh

> > Release build or debug?

> > The de{*filter*} has a much harder time with release builds, because the
> > code is optimized.

> > --
> > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

> >>I've got a problem when trying to debug code in that I can't
> >>see what is in a lot of variables.

> >>For example, I just made a managed C++ application and modified
> >>the default template code to the following:

> >>// This is the entry point for this application
> >>int _tmain(void)
> >>{
> >>     char MyBuffer[128]="Hello World";
> >>     int len=strlen(MyBuffer);
> >>     strcpy(MyBuffer, "Hello to you too");
> >>     len=strlen(MyBuffer);

> >>     return 0;
> >>}

> >>Now if I single run this and stop at any point, but lets
> >>take the return for examples sake here is my dilemma.

> >>In the locals window I have the following:

> >>   Name              Value               Type
> >>   len               16                  __int32
> >>+                   {length=128}        char[]

> >>As you can see, 'MyBuffer' isn't displayed, and what is in it
> >>is useless from a debugging point of view.  If I hover the mouse
> >>over the variable it shows the same value.  Expanding the + shows
> >>the contents byte by byte.

> >>This is just a simple example, but things like link lists don't
> >>know about their location and don't expand so are impossible to
> >>peruse.

> >>I've hunted through the IDE settings, installed on two computers,
> >>one with XP and the other with Win2K.  I've reinstalled etc, but
> >>to no avail.  Another friend who also has this has no issues, and
> >>the only difference that might be of consequence is that I also
> >>have Watcom C++ installed on both machines I've tried on.

> Andy
> --
>  This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights


> > Debug.  After sifting through the forums, a comment
> > about managed apps looked to be similar, so I rebuilt
> > an empty non-managed project and the vars are now
> > there.

> > So, is this a bug, by design, or is there a way to
> > get around the problem?  And if it's a bug, when
> > would a fix be available?

> > Thanks, Josh

> > > Release build or debug?

> > > The de{*filter*} has a much harder time with release builds, because the
> > > code is optimized.

> > > --
> > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights.

> > >>I've got a problem when trying to debug code in that I can't
> > >>see what is in a lot of variables.

> > >>For example, I just made a managed C++ application and modified
> > >>the default template code to the following:

> > >>// This is the entry point for this application
> > >>int _tmain(void)
> > >>{
> > >>     char MyBuffer[128]="Hello World";
> > >>     int len=strlen(MyBuffer);
> > >>     strcpy(MyBuffer, "Hello to you too");
> > >>     len=strlen(MyBuffer);

> > >>     return 0;
> > >>}

> > >>Now if I single run this and stop at any point, but lets
> > >>take the return for examples sake here is my dilemma.

> > >>In the locals window I have the following:

> > >>   Name              Value               Type
> > >>   len               16                  __int32
> > >>+                   {length=128}        char[]

> > >>As you can see, 'MyBuffer' isn't displayed, and what is in it
> > >>is useless from a debugging point of view.  If I hover the mouse
> > >>over the variable it shows the same value.  Expanding the + shows
> > >>the contents byte by byte.

> > >>This is just a simple example, but things like link lists don't
> > >>know about their location and don't expand so are impossible to
> > >>peruse.

> > >>I've hunted through the IDE settings, installed on two computers,
> > >>one with XP and the other with Win2K.  I've reinstalled etc, but
> > >>to no avail.  Another friend who also has this has no issues, and
> > >>the only difference that might be of consequence is that I also
> > >>have Watcom C++ installed on both machines I've tried on.

> Thanks, Josh

> > This kind of thing (displaying native types in managed C++) has been
greatly
> > improved in the forthcoming VS 2003 (aka Everett).

> > Andy
> > --
> >  This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights


> > > Debug.  After sifting through the forums, a comment
> > > about managed apps looked to be similar, so I rebuilt
> > > an empty non-managed project and the vars are now
> > > there.

> > > So, is this a bug, by design, or is there a way to
> > > get around the problem?  And if it's a bug, when
> > > would a fix be available?

> > > Thanks, Josh

> > > > Release build or debug?

> > > > The de{*filter*} has a much harder time with release builds, because the
> > > > code is optimized.

> > > > --
> > > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> > rights.

> > > >>I've got a problem when trying to debug code in that I can't
> > > >>see what is in a lot of variables.

> > > >>For example, I just made a managed C++ application and modified
> > > >>the default template code to the following:

> > > >>// This is the entry point for this application
> > > >>int _tmain(void)
> > > >>{
> > > >>     char MyBuffer[128]="Hello World";
> > > >>     int len=strlen(MyBuffer);
> > > >>     strcpy(MyBuffer, "Hello to you too");
> > > >>     len=strlen(MyBuffer);

> > > >>     return 0;
> > > >>}

> > > >>Now if I single run this and stop at any point, but lets
> > > >>take the return for examples sake here is my dilemma.

> > > >>In the locals window I have the following:

> > > >>   Name              Value               Type
> > > >>   len               16                  __int32
> > > >>+                   {length=128}        char[]

> > > >>As you can see, 'MyBuffer' isn't displayed, and what is in it
> > > >>is useless from a debugging point of view.  If I hover the mouse
> > > >>over the variable it shows the same value.  Expanding the + shows
> > > >>the contents byte by byte.

> > > >>This is just a simple example, but things like link lists don't
> > > >>know about their location and don't expand so are impossible to
> > > >>peruse.

> > > >>I've hunted through the IDE settings, installed on two computers,
> > > >>one with XP and the other with Win2K.  I've reinstalled etc, but
> > > >>to no avail.  Another friend who also has this has no issues, and
> > > >>the only difference that might be of consequence is that I also
> > > >>have Watcom C++ installed on both machines I've tried on.