I'm running Win2K with SP2 and SP2 Security Rollup Package 1.  I have
downloaded and installed the Win2K symbols, the Win2K SP2 symbols and the
SP2SRP1 Symbols (in that order).  I'm using VS Studio.Net

When I start my C++ app in the de{*filter*}, symbols are loaded for nearly all
of the system dll's referenced by the app.  But the symbols for ntdll.dll,
comctl32.dll, and shell32.dll don't load ("Cannot find or open a required
DBG file").

The corresponding DBG files are in my WINNT/Symbols/dll directory.  Any
ideas why these DBG files aren't loading?  Wrong versions perhaps?  How can
I determine the version of the DBG files?

--
Matthew Dragiff
904-260-6073

Hi Matthew,

You can check the symbols using it's time stamp. If the timestamp doesn't
match, the symbols may not be matched. You can use "dumpbin -headers
ntdll.dbg" and "dumpbin -headers ntdll.dll" to check the time stamp.

In {*filter*}ion, you may want to use a symbol server so that the symbols can
be downloaded from the web directly. Here are the steps:

1. Download and install the latest "Debugging Tools for Windows" kit from
http://www.*-*-*.com/

2. After installing the latest debugging tools, locate the SYMSRV.DLL file
in the "\Program Files\Debugging Tools For Windows" or "c:\WINDBG" folder.
Debugging Tools may have been installed in different folder, so if you
don't find one of the above mentioned folders, then search on your drives
for SYMSRV.dll.

3. Shut down Visual Studio .NET if it is open. Copy SYMSRV.DLL to the
"C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio .NET\Common7\IDE" folder. The
next time when you will start Visual Studio .Net, it can use the SYMSRV.DLL
file to find symbol servers which you specify.

To set the symbol server in _NT_SYMBOL_PATH environment variable, please
refer to the article below:

Q311503 INFO: Use the Microsoft Symbol Server to Get Debug Symbol Files
http://www.*-*-*.com/

Best Regards,
Leo Chen

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

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| I'm running Win2K with SP2 and SP2 Security Rollup Package 1.  I have
| downloaded and installed the Win2K symbols, the Win2K SP2 symbols and the
| SP2SRP1 Symbols (in that order).  I'm using VS Studio.Net
|
| When I start my C++ app in the de{*filter*}, symbols are loaded for nearly all
| of the system dll's referenced by the app.  But the symbols for ntdll.dll,
| comctl32.dll, and shell32.dll don't load ("Cannot find or open a required
| DBG file").
|
| The corresponding DBG files are in my WINNT/Symbols/dll directory.  Any
| ideas why these DBG files aren't loading?  Wrong versions perhaps?  How
can
| I determine the version of the DBG files?
|
| --
| Matthew Dragiff
| 904-260-6073

|
|
|
|

I have tried to set this up a couple of times, but there appears to be no
way to pass credentials to the symsrv.dll so that it can get through our
firewall.

I have looked through the docs, but couldn't find a way to do it.  Can it be
made to work through an authenticating firewall?

Thanks,

DJ

...

Hi,

Generally, when the DLL is loaded into the exe, the operations use the
token of the process. Since it is uses HTTP protocol to download the
symbols, you may want to check the proxy settings in Control Panel |
Internet Options.

I hope this helps.

Best Regards,
Leo Chen

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| I have tried to set this up a couple of times, but there appears to be no
| way to pass credentials to the symsrv.dll so that it can get through our
| firewall.
|
| I have looked through the docs, but couldn't find a way to do it.  Can it
be
| made to work through an authenticating firewall?
|
| Thanks,
|
| DJ
|
|


| > Hi Matthew,
| >
| > You can check the symbols using it's time stamp. If the timestamp
doesn't
| > match, the symbols may not be matched. You can use "dumpbin -headers
| > ntdll.dbg" and "dumpbin -headers ntdll.dll" to check the time stamp.
| >
| > In {*filter*}ion, you may want to use a symbol server so that the symbols
can
| > be downloaded from the web directly. Here are the steps:
| >
| > 1. Download and install the latest "Debugging Tools for Windows" kit
from
| > http://www.*-*-*.com/
| >
| ...
|
|
|
|

Thanks for the information.  Unfortunately it doesn't help our situation,
since our firewall uses it's own database for username/password
authentication, which is, of course, not the same as our network logon
credentials.  Is there any other way of passing this info or any way to get
it to ask for correct credentials if the firewall rejects the request?  It's
not a huge deal, but it would sure be nice to always have the right
symbols...

DJ

rights.

Hi DJ,

In this situation, windbg (or other client) is just a HTTP client that
downloads symbols from the web. It may not communicate with the proxy
directly. You may want to install a proxy client software to do this for
you. It is responsible for choosing proxy server from the proxy array and
providing credentials when needed. Please check with the manufacturer of
proxy server for more information.

In addition, you can download and install the symbols (in the proper order)
from the URL below:

http://www.*-*-*.com/

Best Regards,
Leo Chen

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

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|
| Thanks for the information.  Unfortunately it doesn't help our situation,
| since our firewall uses it's own database for username/password
| authentication, which is, of course, not the same as our network logon
| credentials.  Is there any other way of passing this info or any way to
get
| it to ask for correct credentials if the firewall rejects the request?  
It's
| not a huge deal, but it would sure be nice to always have the right
| symbols...
|
|
| DJ
|
|


| > Hi,
| >
| > Generally, when the DLL is loaded into the exe, the operations use the
| > token of the process. Since it is uses HTTP protocol to download the
| > symbols, you may want to check the proxy settings in Control Panel |
| > Internet Options.
| >
| > I hope this helps.
| >
| > Best Regards,
| > Leo Chen
| >
| > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
| rights.
|
|
|
|