VB Syntax, Allow MDI Child form to overlap Aligned Picture Box in MDI Form

Allow MDI Child form to overlap Aligned Picture Box in MDI Form

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Kip Fryma #1 / 8	Allow MDI Child form to overlap Aligned Picture Box in MDI Form Basically I have one non modal form that needs to be able to breathe in the MDI form... It has to be able to overlap the aligned picture box... While the other non modal forms do not have this ability. Anyone have a solution?
Mon, 10 Nov 2003 23:57:55 GMT

Jeff Johnso #2 / 8	Allow MDI Child form to overlap Aligned Picture Box in MDI Form Quote: > Basically I have one non modal form that needs to be able to breathe in the > MDI form... It has to be able to overlap the aligned picture box... While > the other non modal forms do not have this ability. If its MDIChild property is True then it will NEVER overlap the picture box and there's no way around it.
Tue, 11 Nov 2003 00:37:08 GMT

Kip Fryma #3 / 8	Allow MDI Child form to overlap Aligned Picture Box in MDI Form I see.... That fubars some things up for me. Is there anyway to acheive this effect at all? An API maybe? Quote: > > Basically I have one non modal form that needs to be able to breathe in > the > > MDI form... It has to be able to overlap the aligned picture box... > While > > the other non modal forms do not have this ability. > If its MDIChild property is True then it will NEVER overlap the picture box > and there's no way around it.
Tue, 11 Nov 2003 01:24:53 GMT

Scott McChesne #4 / 8	Allow MDI Child form to overlap Aligned Picture Box in MDI Form Not without making the form non-MDI-Child, which probably defeats the purpose of what you're trying to do. Once that happens, the form is no longer contained within the boundaries of the MDI form, so it's no longer linked to the MDI. If that's a problem, then I think you're out of luck. Previous posters who have tried some form of always-on-top API functionality with an MDI child never got good results, primarily because child forms aren't designed to do that. I can't think of any other way to accomplish what you want. What is this "breathable form" representing? Can you make it some sort of dockable toolbar-type thing? Scott Quote: > I see.... That fubars some things up for me. Is there anyway to acheive > this effect at all? An API maybe? > > > Basically I have one non modal form that needs to be able to breathe in > > the > > > MDI form... It has to be able to overlap the aligned picture box... > > While > > > the other non modal forms do not have this ability. > > If its MDIChild property is True then it will NEVER overlap the picture > box > > and there's no way around it.
Tue, 11 Nov 2003 01:58:49 GMT

Kip Fryma #5 / 8	Allow MDI Child form to overlap Aligned Picture Box in MDI Form It is just a form for a scheduling componant. But I want it to be moved around. I have a picture container at the top that takes up a fair bit of room, but it is there for a purpose. It kind of loks funny having this kind of a form only allowed to move in the bottom half of the MDI Form... I could make it modal, but there is a reason I made it non modal; users need to access other forms quickly back and forth... The form I think is too big to make it dockable and plus I do not have any ActiveX controls to do that, or the time to try and do it myself.... Quote: > Not without making the form non-MDI-Child, which probably defeats the > purpose of what you're trying to do. Once that happens, the form is no > longer contained within the boundaries of the MDI form, so it's no longer > linked to the MDI. If that's a problem, then I think you're out of luck. > Previous posters who have tried some form of always-on-top API functionality > with an MDI child never got good results, primarily because child forms > aren't designed to do that. I can't think of any other way to accomplish > what you want. > What is this "breathable form" representing? Can you make it some sort of > dockable toolbar-type thing? > Scott > > I see.... That fubars some things up for me. Is there anyway to acheive > > this effect at all? An API maybe? > > > > Basically I have one non modal form that needs to be able to breathe > in > > > the > > > > MDI form... It has to be able to overlap the aligned picture box... > > > While > > > > the other non modal forms do not have this ability. > > > If its MDIChild property is True then it will NEVER overlap the picture > > box > > > and there's no way around it.
Tue, 11 Nov 2003 02:34:57 GMT

Scott McChesne #6 / 8	Allow MDI Child form to overlap Aligned Picture Box in MDI Form I'm not suggesting you make it a Modal form; you can't show MDI child forms modally anyway. I'm suggesting you not make it an MDI child. Then it's not constrained by the MDI parent window, and can go anywhere. But that includes outside the boundaries of the MDI parent window. I don't know if that's a problem for you or not. But if you look at floating windows like what you want in other apps, they aren't constrained by the container form either. This is why. You don't necessarily need ActiveX controls to create dockable windows. VB supports a "Sizeable ToolWindow" BorderStyle for forms, and it's not a ton of code to make it "dockable". I understand your time constraints, but I don't think you're going to get the functionality you want with an MDI child. Depending on how close you have to make your floating solution, it could be a lot of work. Scott Quote: > It is just a form for a scheduling componant. But I want it to be moved > around. I have a picture container at the top that takes up a fair bit of > room, but it is there for a purpose. It kind of loks funny having this kind > of a form only allowed to move in the bottom half of the MDI Form... I > could make it modal, but there is a reason I made it non modal; users need > to access other forms quickly back and forth... > The form I think is too big to make it dockable and plus I do not have any > ActiveX controls to do that, or the time to try and do it myself.... > > Not without making the form non-MDI-Child, which probably defeats the > > purpose of what you're trying to do. Once that happens, the form is no > > longer contained within the boundaries of the MDI form, so it's no longer > > linked to the MDI. If that's a problem, then I think you're out of luck. > > Previous posters who have tried some form of always-on-top API > functionality > > with an MDI child never got good results, primarily because child forms > > aren't designed to do that. I can't think of any other way to accomplish > > what you want. > > What is this "breathable form" representing? Can you make it some sort of > > dockable toolbar-type thing? > > Scott > > > I see.... That fubars some things up for me. Is there anyway to acheive > > > this effect at all? An API maybe? > > > > > Basically I have one non modal form that needs to be able to breathe > > in > > > > the > > > > > MDI form... It has to be able to overlap the aligned picture box... > > > > While > > > > > the other non modal forms do not have this ability. > > > > If its MDIChild property is True then it will NEVER overlap the > picture > > > box > > > > and there's no way around it.
Tue, 11 Nov 2003 03:13:44 GMT

Kip Fryma #7 / 8	Allow MDI Child form to overlap Aligned Picture Box in MDI Form The problem with a non modal non mdi child form is that it is just that.... If it is open and the user clicks another part of the MDI form, the other form goes behind the MDI form and could cause some frustration for these users. You know how it goes... What does a sizable tool windows do anyway? From my experience it just makes the menu bar smaller. Kip Quote: > I'm not suggesting you make it a Modal form; you can't show MDI child forms > modally anyway. I'm suggesting you not make it an MDI child. Then it's not > constrained by the MDI parent window, and can go anywhere. But that > includes outside the boundaries of the MDI parent window. I don't know if > that's a problem for you or not. But if you look at floating windows like > what you want in other apps, they aren't constrained by the container form > either. This is why. > You don't necessarily need ActiveX controls to create dockable windows. VB > supports a "Sizeable ToolWindow" BorderStyle for forms, and it's not a ton > of code to make it "dockable". I understand your time constraints, but I > don't think you're going to get the functionality you want with an MDI > child. Depending on how close you have to make your floating solution, it > could be a lot of work. > Scott > > It is just a form for a scheduling componant. But I want it to be moved > > around. I have a picture container at the top that takes up a fair bit of > > room, but it is there for a purpose. It kind of loks funny having this > kind > > of a form only allowed to move in the bottom half of the MDI Form... I > > could make it modal, but there is a reason I made it non modal; users need > > to access other forms quickly back and forth... > > The form I think is too big to make it dockable and plus I do not have any > > ActiveX controls to do that, or the time to try and do it myself.... > > > Not without making the form non-MDI-Child, which probably defeats the > > > purpose of what you're trying to do. Once that happens, the form is no > > > longer contained within the boundaries of the MDI form, so it's no > longer > > > linked to the MDI. If that's a problem, then I think you're out of > luck. > > > Previous posters who have tried some form of always-on-top API > > functionality > > > with an MDI child never got good results, primarily because child forms > > > aren't designed to do that. I can't think of any other way to > accomplish > > > what you want. > > > What is this "breathable form" representing? Can you make it some sort > of > > > dockable toolbar-type thing? > > > Scott > > > > I see.... That fubars some things up for me. Is there anyway to > acheive > > > > this effect at all? An API maybe? message > > > > > > Basically I have one non modal form that needs to be able to > breathe > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > MDI form... It has to be able to overlap the aligned picture > box... > > > > > While > > > > > > the other non modal forms do not have this ability. > > > > > If its MDIChild property is True then it will NEVER overlap the > > picture > > > > box > > > > > and there's no way around it.
Tue, 11 Nov 2003 03:41:18 GMT

Jeff Johnso #8 / 8	Allow MDI Child form to overlap Aligned Picture Box in MDI Form Quote: > The problem with a non modal non mdi child form is that it is just that.... > If it is open and the user clicks another part of the MDI form, the other > form goes behind the MDI form and could cause some frustration for these > users. You know how it goes... Not if you use the second parameter to the Show method so that the modeless form always stays on top of the MDI parent. It's like a Find dialog box, you know?
Tue, 11 Nov 2003 04:35:15 GMT

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