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Abhishe #1 / 25
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 .NET vs Java (Windows service development)
We have a requirement, in this we need to develop a windows service. Our client want this to be develop in Java, we are emphasising on .NET 4.0 and much more comfortable with .NET. I would like to know some good comparative points for .NET 4.0 over Java in windows service development. Thank You,
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Sat, 05 Jan 2013 12:40:02 GMT |
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Kevin Provanc #2 / 25
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: We have a requirement, in this we need to develop a windows service. Our : client want this to be develop in Java, we are emphasising on .NET 4.0 and : much more comfortable with .NET. I would like to know some good comparative : points for .NET 4.0 over Java in windows service development. : You're in the wrong group pal. This forum is for VB6 and lower. We do not deal with anything dot net here.
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Sat, 05 Jan 2013 12:56:00 GMT |
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Cor #3 / 25
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There aint, you could also do it with VB6. A windows service is mostly not a memory consuming program so the main factor is the price. That price is not affected by the tool, but by your knowledge of the tool. If your clients wants to do it with Java, then there should be something which makes that he wants to do it with that. Find out what are the factors for him that count that it should be Java. Probably is only something biased, for that are no argumentations. JMO Cor
Quote: > We have a requirement, in this we need to develop a windows service. Our > client want this to be develop in Java, we are emphasising on .NET 4.0 and > much more comfortable with .NET. I would like to know some good > comparative > points for .NET 4.0 over Java in windows service development. > Thank You,
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Sat, 05 Jan 2013 16:43:58 GMT |
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Paul Clemen #4 / 25
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We have a requirement, in this we need to develop a windows service. Our client want this to be develop in Java, we are emphasising on .NET 4.0 and much more comfortable with .NET. I would like to know some good comparative points for .NET 4.0 over Java in windows service development. Thank You, I would recommend posting your question to a .NET forum where you're more likely to get a good answer: http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vbgeneral/threads Paul ~~~~ Microsoft MVP (Visual Basic)
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Sat, 05 Jan 2013 20:05:15 GMT |
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DanS #5 / 25
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Quote: > There aint, you could also do it with VB6.
Is an answer to what question ? This one ?............ "I would like to know some good comparative points for .NET 4.0 over Java in windows service development." ....... ? So there are no good points for using .Net over Java ? (I understand English isn't your first language, but the use of aint is typically reserved for the uneducated hillbilly redneck type, or as a word used in many cliche's.) You might as well use the plural form of 'you' also...... that would be 'yous'.
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Sat, 05 Jan 2013 23:38:12 GMT |
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Cor #6 / 25
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My English is know gibberish, but that does not mean that I never hear an English song. Seems to me that by instance the song "There aint no mountain high enough" is well know enough. I had not the idea that the performers of this song where most hillbilly rednecks (can be that I don't understand what you mean with it) Rednecks is in my perception the nick name for the British in the US revolutionary war. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xz-UvQYAmbg But if you call the performers of this song uneducated, then we know what you are. Cor
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>> There aint, you could also do it with VB6. > Is an answer to what question ? > This one ?............ > "I would like to know some good comparative points for .NET 4.0 > over Java in windows service development." ....... ? > So there are no good points for using .Net over Java ? > (I understand English isn't your first language, but the use of > aint is typically reserved for the uneducated hillbilly redneck > type, or as a word used in many cliche's.) > You might as well use the plural form of 'you' also...... that > would be 'yous'.
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Sat, 05 Jan 2013 23:53:55 GMT |
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Karl E. Peterso #7 / 25
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After serious thinking Abhishek wrote : Quote: > We have a requirement, in this we need to develop a windows service. Our > client want this to be develop in Java, we are emphasising on .NET 4.0 and > much more comfortable with .NET. I would like to know some good comparative > points for .NET 4.0 over Java in windows service development.
Use a *real* language to write services. Sheesh! This is why people's machines {*filter*}out. Java or .NOT for a service?!?!? Get a f'n clue! Try something with *zero* dependencies other than core Windows itself. -- .NET: It's About Trust! http://www.*-*-*.com/
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Sun, 06 Jan 2013 00:03:08 GMT |
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Tom Shelto #8 / 25
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Cor wrote on 7/20/2010 : Quote: > My English is know gibberish, but that does not mean that I never hear an > English song. > Seems to me that by instance the song > "There aint no mountain high enough" is well know enough. > I had not the idea that the performers of this song where most hillbilly > rednecks > (can be that I don't understand what you mean with it) > Rednecks is in my perception the nick name for the British in the US > revolutionary war. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xz-UvQYAmbg > But if you call the performers of this song uneducated, then we know what you > are. > Cor
Cor - Dan is correct. Ain't is not considered a valid english construct - at least in the US. It is generally only used regularly by small children or the more uneducated segments of US society :) -- Tom Shelton
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Sun, 06 Jan 2013 00:13:05 GMT |
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Tom Shelto #9 / 25
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Karl E. Peterson brought next idea : Quote: > After serious thinking Abhishek wrote : >> We have a requirement, in this we need to develop a windows service. Our >> client want this to be develop in Java, we are emphasising on .NET 4.0 and >> much more comfortable with .NET. I would like to know some good comparative >> points for .NET 4.0 over Java in windows service development. > Use a *real* language to write services. Sheesh! This is why people's > machines {*filter*}out. Java or .NOT for a service?!?!? Get a f'n clue! Try > something with *zero* dependencies other than core Windows itself.
LOL... You should get a clue. I have services that were written 9+ years ago in .NET 1.0 still running happily without a single issue. I just did one in C# for another team at my current employer - reason? They asked the C++ guys, and they bid like 460 hours... I did the whole thing start to finish in about 120. -- Tom Shelton
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Sun, 06 Jan 2013 00:21:58 GMT |
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Cor #10 / 25
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I know Tom, but sometimes I wanna do it in another way :-)
Quote: > Cor wrote on 7/20/2010 : >> My English is know gibberish, but that does not mean that I never hear an >> English song. >> Seems to me that by instance the song >> "There aint no mountain high enough" is well know enough. >> I had not the idea that the performers of this song where most hillbilly >> rednecks >> (can be that I don't understand what you mean with it) >> Rednecks is in my perception the nick name for the British in the US >> revolutionary war. >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xz-UvQYAmbg >> But if you call the performers of this song uneducated, then we know what >> you are. >> Cor > Cor - Dan is correct. Ain't is not considered a valid english construct - > at least in the US. It is generally only used regularly by small children > or the more uneducated segments of US society :) > -- > Tom Shelton
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Sun, 06 Jan 2013 00:29:51 GMT |
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DickGrie #11 / 25
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Writing services in .NET is pretty easy, and (in my experience, which is somewhat limited) reliable. If the service has an real low-level (device driver interaction), then writing in C/C++ might make sense. Most service don't need this, IMO. Picking Java over .NET? I wouldn't. But, I don't have any evidence. Dick -- Richard Grier, Consultant, Hard & Software 12962 West Louisiana Avenue Lakewood, CO 80228 303-986-2179 (voice) Homepage: www.hardandsoftware.net Author of Visual Basic Programmer's Guide to Serial Communications, 4th Edition ISBN 1-890422-28-2 (391 pages) published July 2004, Revised July 2006.
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Sun, 06 Jan 2013 00:44:53 GMT |
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Cor #12 / 25
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Karl, You started this in this newsgroup. .Net is almost native to Windows OS systems newer then NT5.1 while non NT Windows systems don't even have the possibility of Windows Server. But that does not make that a .Net language will be better choice to use then Java. Microsoft cannot permit themselves (in my perception) to break any Java running code on a Microsoft OS in the favour of .Net. Cor
Quote: > After serious thinking Abhishek wrote : >> We have a requirement, in this we need to develop a windows service. Our >> client want this to be develop in Java, we are emphasising on .NET 4.0 >> and much more comfortable with .NET. I would like to know some good >> comparative points for .NET 4.0 over Java in windows service development. > Use a *real* language to write services. Sheesh! This is why people's > machines {*filter*}out. Java or .NOT for a service?!?!? Get a f'n clue! Try > something with *zero* dependencies other than core Windows itself. > -- > .NET: It's About Trust! > http://www.*-*-*.com/
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Sun, 06 Jan 2013 01:42:50 GMT |
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Karl E. Peterso #13 / 25
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Tom Shelton wrote on 7/20/2010 : Quote: > Karl E. Peterson brought next idea : >> After serious thinking Abhishek wrote : >>> We have a requirement, in this we need to develop a windows service. Our >>> client want this to be develop in Java, we are emphasising on .NET 4.0 and >>> much more comfortable with .NET. I would like to know some good >>> comparative points for .NET 4.0 over Java in windows service development. >> Use a *real* language to write services. Sheesh! This is why people's >> machines {*filter*}out. Java or .NOT for a service?!?!? Get a f'n clue! Try >> something with *zero* dependencies other than core Windows itself. > LOL... You should get a clue. I have services that were written 9+ years ago > in .NET 1.0 still running happily without a single issue.
Oh, I *know* that it's been supported to do that, ever since then. It's just stupid. That's all. I've even seen video drivers that use the flamework. (Can you spell "BSOD"? I knew you could! <g>) -- .NET: It's About Trust! http://www.*-*-*.com/
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Sun, 06 Jan 2013 01:53:12 GMT |
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Karl E. Peterso #14 / 25
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DickGrier used his keyboard to write : Quote: > Writing services in .NET is pretty easy, and (in my experience, which is > somewhat limited) reliable. If the service has an real low-level (device > driver interaction), then writing in C/C++ might make sense. Most service > don't need this, IMO.
I'd always recommend C/C++ or Delphi for a service. There's no need to drag in a 100MB+ dependency for what should be a {*filter*}sy-eensy little piece of code. Quote: > Picking Java over .NET? I wouldn't. But, I don't have any evidence.
And I'd reject both, without hesitation. -- .NET: It's About Trust! http://www.*-*-*.com/
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Sun, 06 Jan 2013 01:54:33 GMT |
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Karl E. Peterso #15 / 25
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Cor laid this down on his screen : Quote: > You started this in this newsgroup.
Bite me. Quote: > .Net is almost native to Windows OS
Almost counts in horseshoes and hand grenades. -- .NET: It's About Trust! http://vfred.mvps.org
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Sun, 06 Jan 2013 01:55:31 GMT |
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