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 OT: Win 3.1


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>> | Now I can only remember where my VB4 Install CD is I can do some
>> 16 bit
>> | development. <G>

>> Bah, I still have my VB3 disks (burned onto CD, but still).  ;-)

> I've still got the set of floppies here. - Used them to install it on a W98
> machine last year to update a legacy program, so they're still ok!

> Regards


I still have a Conner 422MB hard drive with Win 3.1 installed on it.

Galen



Sun, 14 Aug 2011 05:35:10 GMT  
 OT: Win 3.1

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>| Beat this!
>|
>|   H:\Common\Setups\Programming\MSBASIC\BASCOM\IBM>bascom

> Here is the problem with playing who can top who when it comes to BASIC and
> VB:  Karl has every single version of said software archived in some form or
> another, therefore no one else can win.  ;-)

I gave it away too soon, again(!), didn't I? <g>

Not quite true, though.  I'm still needing bits for QB1 to complete the collection.
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Sun, 14 Aug 2011 05:38:54 GMT  
 OT: Win 3.1

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> I still have a Conner 422MB hard drive with Win 3.1 installed on it.

I still have a 30MB "HardCard" with Windows 1.0 installed on it... <gd&r>
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Sun, 14 Aug 2011 05:44:55 GMT  
 OT: Win 3.1



| > I still have a Conner 422MB hard drive with Win 3.1 installed on it.
|
| I still have a 30MB "HardCard" with Windows 1.0 installed on it... <gd&r>

Wow.  Hate to say it Galen, but you just got served.  <eg>



Sun, 14 Aug 2011 07:26:27 GMT  
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>> I still have a Conner 422MB hard drive with Win 3.1 installed on it.

> I still have a 30MB "HardCard" with Windows 1.0 installed on it... <gd&r>
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Hmmm, guess I have to mount my old 5.25 floppy and see what's on them
diskettes, if anything is still readable. ;)

/Henning



Sun, 14 Aug 2011 07:54:31 GMT  
 OT: Win 3.1

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>>> I still have a Conner 422MB hard drive with Win 3.1 installed on it.

>> I still have a 30MB "HardCard" with Windows 1.0 installed on it... <gd&r>

> Hmmm, guess I have to mount my old 5.25 floppy and see what's on them
> diskettes, if anything is still readable. ;)

That's a pretty good trick, these days.  You have to get up in the attic to find a
machine old enough to still support one of those drives.  (I know, I tried salvaging
what were still on my old floppies a few years ago!)  And, although it's not too
hard to find a 3.5" external floppy drive, I never could find a 5.25" external.
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Sun, 14 Aug 2011 08:19:00 GMT  
 OT: Win 3.1



| That's a pretty good trick, these days.  You have to get up in the attic
to find a
| machine old enough to still support one of those drives.  (I know, I tried
salvaging
| what were still on my old floppies a few years ago!)  And, although it's
not too
| hard to find a 3.5" external floppy drive, I never could find a 5.25"
external.

http://shop.ebay.com/items/_W0QQ_nkwZ5Q2e25Q20externalQ20driveQQ_armr...



Sun, 14 Aug 2011 08:33:36 GMT  
 OT: Win 3.1

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>| That's a pretty good trick, these days.  You have to get up in the attic to find
>a
>| machine old enough to still support one of those drives.  (I know, I tried
>| salvaging what were still on my old floppies a few years ago!)  And, although
>| it's not too hard to find a 3.5" external floppy drive, I never could find a
>| 5.25" external.

> http://shop.ebay.com/items/_W0QQ_nkwZ5Q2e25Q20externalQ20driveQQ_armr...

Those are just for Apples, no?  And they're SCSI, not USB.  :-(
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Sun, 14 Aug 2011 08:40:43 GMT  
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> >| Beat this!
> >|
> >| ? H:\Common\Setups\Programming\MSBASIC\BASCOM\IBM>bascom

> > Here is the problem with playing who can top who when it comes to BASIC and
> > VB: ?Karl has every single version of said software archived in some form or
> > another, therefore no one else can win. ?;-)

> I gave it away too soon, again(!), didn't I? <g>

> Not quite true, though. ?I'm still needing bits for QB1 to complete the collection.
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Thought I was going to be able to help you out - but it looks like
what I have is QB1.1...

MS-DOS QBasic
Version 1.1
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation, 1987-1992

Oh, well :)

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Sun, 14 Aug 2011 08:51:53 GMT  
 OT: Win 3.1

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> Thought I was going to be able to help you out - but it looks like
> what I have is QB1.1...

> MS-DOS QBasic
> Version 1.1
> Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation, 1987-1992

> Oh, well :)

Ah, I got that one too.  This, right?

   09/30/1993  05:20 AM           194,309 QBASIC.EXE

But that's QBasic.  What I'd really like to dig out is v1 of QuickBasic.  This is
v2:

   06/16/1986  01:47 PM           186,256 QB.EXE

Let's see if these line-draw characters survive in the modern world?

+-------------------------| Microsoft QuickBASIC 2.0 |-------------------------+
|         +-----------------------------------------------------------+        ?
|         |(C) Copyright Microsoft Corp. 1982, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1986 |        |
|         |          Press Shift-PrtSc to print this screen.          |        |
|         |            Press Esc to make this box go away.            |        |
|         |             Press F1 to view the help window.             |        |
|         | +----------| Entering Commands in QuickBASIC +----------+ |        |
|         | | Enter commands by selecting them from a menu.         | |        |
|         | | Menu names are listed at the top of the display.      | |        |
|         | | Each menu contains a list of commands.                | |        |
|         | | To display the commands in a menu:                    | |        |
|         | |    1. Hold down the Alt key.                          | |        |
|         | |    2. Type the first letter of the menu name.         | |        |
|         | | To select a command from a menu:                      | |        |
|         | |    1. Use the Up/Down direction keys to highlight     | |        |
|         | |       the command (in reverse video).                 | |        |
|         | |    2. Press Enter. (the command will be executed)     | |        |
|         | | To make a menu go away without executing a command:   | |        |
|         | |    +  Press the Esc key.                              | |        |
|         | +-------------------------------------------------------+ |        |
|         | To Exit QuickBASIC: Select Quit from the File menu.       |        |
|         | To Load a Program:  Select Load from the File menu.       |        |
|         +-----------------------------------------------------------+        |
|                                                                              |
|                                                                              ?
+?||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||?+

+------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
|                      Microsoft QuickBASIC Version 2.0                        |
|                                                                              |
| +----------| Menu Selection +-----------+   +------| Shortcut Keys +-------+ |
| | Display Menu       Alt-<first letter> |   | Compile Program    F5        | |
| | Select Command     Up/Down            |   | Run Program        ^R        | |
| | Execute Command    Enter              |   | Display Next Error F6        | |
| +---------------------------------------+   | Find Selected Text ^F        | |
|                                             | Repeat Last Find   F3        | |
| +----------| Cursor Movement +----------+   | Undo               Shift-Esc | |
| | Left/Right One Word      ^Left/^Right |   | Cut                Del       | |
| | Beginning/End of Line    Home/End     |   | Copy               F2        | |
| | Top/Bottom of Screen     ^Home/^End   |   | Paste              Ins       | |
| | Previous/Next Page       PgUp/PgDn    |   | Display Help       F1        | |
| | Beginning/End of File    ^PgUp/^PgDn  |   |                              | |
| +---------------------------------------+   +------------------------------+ |
|                                                      Text Selection          |
| +--------------| Editing +--------------+     Use cursor motion keys with    |
| | Delete Current Line        ^Y         |     either (left or right) Shift   |
| | Delete Selected Text       Del        |     key held down                  |
| | Delete to Right of Cursor  Shift-Bksp |                                    |
| | Insert Line Above/Below    ^N/^B      |                                    |
| +---------------------------------------+   Press Enter to return to Editor  |
+------------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sun, 14 Aug 2011 09:03:41 GMT  
 OT: Win 3.1



Quote:



>>>> I still have a Conner 422MB hard drive with Win 3.1 installed on it.

>>> I still have a 30MB "HardCard" with Windows 1.0 installed on it...
>>> <gd&r>

>> Hmmm, guess I have to mount my old 5.25 floppy and see what's on them
>> diskettes, if anything is still readable. ;)

> That's a pretty good trick, these days.  You have to get up in the attic
> to find a machine old enough to still support one of those drives.  (I
> know, I tried salvaging what were still on my old floppies a few years
> ago!)  And, although it's not too hard to find a 3.5" external floppy
> drive, I never could find a 5.25" external.

I went through that just about a year or so ago.  I had a bunch of stuff on
5.25 floppies. With virtualization now an easy thing to do (via Virtual PC
from MS and products from other vendors), I thought it'd be interesting to
revisit some of those old programs and games.  I had a bunch of Sierra games
and I've always liked, and still do, the Infocom text games.  Anyone
remember Leather Goddesses of Phobos?
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leather_Goddesses_of_Phobos). Classic!  First
I tried connecting the 5.25 drive to a relatively newer PC (about 4 years
old). Drive wouldn't work with it even though the BIOS supposedly had
"support" for a 5.25 drive (the BIOS listed a 1.2 MB 5.25 floppy but the
computer wouldn't boot with that selected) . So, I ended up having to dig
out an even older computer (probably about 10 years old) and copy all the
5.25 disks to 3.5 disks. I was kinda amazed that both this old computer and
the 5.25 drive still worked. But I did get all those 5.25 disks copied onto
3.5 disks. Of course, now it's even harder to find a computer that comes
with a 3.5 floppy disk drive, so I probably should have copied everything to
the hard drive or a CD/DVD. Oh well. That'll give me something else to do
when the time comes.  <g>

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Sun, 14 Aug 2011 09:16:50 GMT  
 OT: Win 3.1



|
| Those are just for Apples, no?  And they're SCSI, not USB.  :-(

Picky, picky!  :P

Doesn't seem like they make a 5.25 usb drive.  BUT...I did find this:
http://www.usb-port.com/bf660.html

SCSI to USB adapter.



Sun, 14 Aug 2011 09:17:04 GMT  
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>|
>| Those are just for Apples, no?  And they're SCSI, not USB.  :-(

> Picky, picky!  :P

> Doesn't seem like they make a 5.25 usb drive.  BUT...I did find this:
> http://www.usb-port.com/bf660.html

> SCSI to USB adapter.

OMG!  $84?!?!?  <LOL>  I think I'd rather put that towards a Mac! <vbg>
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Sun, 14 Aug 2011 09:22:39 GMT  
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> I went through that just about a year or so ago.  I had a bunch of stuff on
> 5.25 floppies. With virtualization now an easy thing to do (via Virtual PC
> from MS and products from other vendors), I thought it'd be interesting to
> revisit some of those old programs and games.

'zactly what I was thinking, yeah!

Quote:
> I had a bunch of Sierra games
> and I've always liked, and still do, the Infocom text games.  Anyone
> remember Leather Goddesses of Phobos?
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leather_Goddesses_of_Phobos). Classic!

Heh, now you've done it.  You're officially unelectable as of that post.  ;-)

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> I tried connecting the 5.25 drive to a relatively newer PC (about 4 years
> old). Drive wouldn't work with it even though the BIOS supposedly had
> "support" for a 5.25 drive (the BIOS listed a 1.2 MB 5.25 floppy but the
> computer wouldn't boot with that selected) . So, I ended up having to dig
> out an even older computer (probably about 10 years old) and copy all the
> 5.25 disks to 3.5 disks. I was kinda amazed that both this old computer and
> the 5.25 drive still worked.

That's pretty much what I did.  I resurrected an old P5/200 and got Win95 running on
it.  It still had both sizes of floppies, and they both worked!  (I think it was the
2nd or 3rd swap that I finally got the 5.25 going, though.)

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> But I did get all those 5.25 disks copied onto
> 3.5 disks. Of course, now it's even harder to find a computer that comes
> with a 3.5 floppy disk drive, so I probably should have copied everything to
> the hard drive or a CD/DVD. Oh well. That'll give me something else to do
> when the time comes.  <g>

There ya go.  I used WinImage to build VFDs of each floppy as I read them -- both
sizes.  They can be dragged right into a VM, now, and it's as if they were plugged
into the floppy.
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