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Tue, 14 Dec 2010 05:13:55 GMT  
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Quote:

> http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/microsoft/archives/141821.asp

  "So they told me that using the download page to download something was not
something they anticipated."

Bwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaahaaahaaahaaahaaaaaaaaaaa!!!
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Tue, 14 Dec 2010 05:49:19 GMT  
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Quote:
>  "So they told me that using the download page to download something was
> not something they anticipated."

> Bwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaahaaahaaahaaahaaaaaaaaaaa!!!

Yeah, I have the feeling this was a typo and he meant to say "to SEARCH FOR
something" instead, because he was talking about entering search terms for
Movie Maker.


Tue, 14 Dec 2010 06:42:01 GMT  
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released on Thu, 26 Jun 2008 18:13:55 -0300 bearing the
following fruit:

Quote:
>http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/microsoft/archives/141821.asp

Did I miss a memo? Why is everone posting links to an
article about a 5 year old e-mail?

I just don't get it.....

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Jan Hyde

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Tue, 14 Dec 2010 16:27:35 GMT  
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Quote:
> Did I miss a memo? Why is everone posting links to an
> article about a 5 year old e-mail?

> I just don't get it.....

  I guess you could start by Googling "sense of humor".
Why are you being such a stickler?

   It was interesting to me on two counts. One is just
the irony and comic relief. Mr. Gates goes through a
long list of some of the most famous complaints about
MS and Windows. They're the things that drive people
crazy, and here's Bill Gates complaining about them.
That's from a company that typically explains away
even distasteful things like WGA and Product Activation
by saying that they're "providing what their customers
have asked for".

   It's also interesting to me as someone who uses Windows,
writes for Windows, and is frustrated with the direction
that MS has taken over the past few years. Imagine that
you bought a lemon of some kind and then saw that *the
president of the company* had the same complaints that
you have! You  wouldn't even need a sense of humor
to find that at least interesting.

  I read somewhere recently that MS is divided between the
geeks and the salesmen, and that outcomes often depend on
who has the upper hand. I don't know whether that's true,
but the memo makes me think about that quote. Whenever
I've seen quotes or footage of Bill Gates he sounds like a
used car salesman -- always an angle. But he's generally,
at least, talking about tech. product. Steve Ballmer is now
taking over, presumably, and whenever I see quotes from him
it's about business strategy. Now here is Bill Gates, in a
mysteriously "leaked" memo, complaining that Windows is
out of touch with end-user needs. Interesting developments, no?



Tue, 14 Dec 2010 20:45:39 GMT  
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were released on Fri, 27 Jun 2008 08:45:39 -0400 bearing the
following fruit:

Quote:
>> Did I miss a memo? Why is everone posting links to an
>> article about a 5 year old e-mail?

>> I just don't get it.....

>  I guess you could start by Googling "sense of humor".
>Why are you being such a stickler?

Because I've seen the same link posted over and over and I
just don't get what the big deal is. Really, I don't.

Quote:
>   It was interesting to me on two counts. One is just
>the irony and comic relief. Mr. Gates goes through a
>long list of some of the most famous complaints about
>MS and Windows. They're the things that drive people
>crazy, and here's Bill Gates complaining about them.
>That's from a company that typically explains away
>even distasteful things like WGA and Product Activation
>by saying that they're "providing what their customers
>have asked for".

>   It's also interesting to me as someone who uses Windows,
>writes for Windows, and is frustrated with the direction
>that MS has taken over the past few years. Imagine that
>you bought a lemon of some kind and then saw that *the
>president of the company* had the same complaints that
>you have! You  wouldn't even need a sense of humor
>to find that at least interesting.

>  I read somewhere recently that MS is divided between the
>geeks and the salesmen, and that outcomes often depend on
>who has the upper hand. I don't know whether that's true,
>but the memo makes me think about that quote. Whenever
>I've seen quotes or footage of Bill Gates he sounds like a
>used car salesman -- always an angle. But he's generally,
>at least, talking about tech. product. Steve Ballmer is now
>taking over, presumably, and whenever I see quotes from him
>it's about business strategy. Now here is Bill Gates, in a
>mysteriously "leaked" memo, complaining that Windows is
>out of touch with end-user needs. Interesting developments, no?

The e-mail could have come from any MD at any software
company; these issues are not unique to MS. You mention a
divide between salesmen and 'geeks' - I'd say this is
probably true in any software company too.

Much like the discussion we're having re the Intel comments,
it seems to be being used to bash Microsoft, when in reality
there really is nothing unusal about the e-mail and surely
it's actually a good thing that Bill would write such an
e-mail.

Interesting Developments? Well, yes I guess so. Beause this
e-mail is five years old. Since then MS put a lot of effort
in the 'user experience' hence, Office 2007 and Vista.

Time will tell if they got that right.

I think they did with Office and to some extent with Vista
(offset by making some things harder)

--
Jan Hyde

https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Jan.Hyde



Tue, 14 Dec 2010 23:28:26 GMT  
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Quote:

> > http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/microsoft/archives/141821.asp

>   "So they told me that using the download page to download something was
not
> something they anticipated."

> Bwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaahaaahaaahaaahaaaaaaaaaaa!!!

Here's a quote that might be sig worthy...

"The registry is not usable."
- Bill Gates

<g>



Wed, 15 Dec 2010 16:13:50 GMT  
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Quote:
> Interesting Developments? Well, yes I guess so. Beause this
> e-mail is five years old.

Has it been public for five years?  I know I miss out on a good deal of "stuff" when
it's fresh, so I suppose that could very easily be true here too.  First time I saw
it, and I found it hilarious for many of the reasons mayayana suggests.  I suppose
another factor in this link making the rounds is billg's retirement?  IOW, it's a
warm reflection back on the "good ol' days" when there was still some slim hope that
someone inside MSFT actually "got it."  Now we know, they don't give a carp about
any of us.

Quote:
> Since then MS put a lot of effort
> in the 'user experience' hence, Office 2007 and Vista.

To near universal agreement that everything is only worse.
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 http://vfred.mvps.org


Sat, 18 Dec 2010 09:15:58 GMT  
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Quote:
>> Since then MS put a lot of effort
>> in the 'user experience' hence, Office 2007 and Vista.

> To near universal agreement that everything is only worse.

Agreed. My own experience of Office 2007 is that it is dreadfully slow,
entirely non intuiative and not very reliable. On my machine (AMD 3000+) MS
Word takes at the very least four seconds to start up, even after I have
given it the best fighting chance by opening it just after I have closed it,
and often very much longer. It also has a habit of crashing (MS Word is not
responding) when I close it down. My wife uses MS Publisher and she has
similar problems with that as well (apart from the crash on closing). Office
2007 is a dreadfully bloated piece of software that does not work very well
and its only purpose, as far as I can see, is to persuade us all to pay for
another ride on the MS carousel.

Mike



Sat, 18 Dec 2010 12:47:09 GMT  
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were released on Tue, 1 Jul 2008 05:47:09 +0100 bearing the
following fruit:

Quote:


>>> Since then MS put a lot of effort
>>> in the 'user experience' hence, Office 2007 and Vista.

>> To near universal agreement that everything is only worse.

>Agreed. My own experience of Office 2007 is that it is dreadfully slow,
>entirely non intuiative and not very reliable. On my machine (AMD 3000+) MS
>Word takes at the very least four seconds to start up, even after I have
>given it the best fighting chance by opening it just after I have closed it,
>and often very much longer. It also has a habit of crashing (MS Word is not
>responding) when I close it down. My wife uses MS Publisher and she has
>similar problems with that as well (apart from the crash on closing). Office
>2007 is a dreadfully bloated piece of software that does not work very well
>and its only purpose, as far as I can see, is to persuade us all to pay for
>another ride on the MS carousel.

I've never had a problem with 2007 on any machine. I think
people who know Word very well will hate the new interface
but occasinal users like myself are using far more features
than ever because it's so easy.

Again, in my experience those that move to Vista or 2007
hate it. Ask them again in a month or so and they love it.

I think the ribbon control is a good move.
--
Jan Hyde

https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Jan.Hyde



Sat, 18 Dec 2010 18:25:38 GMT  
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Quote:
> Again, in my experience those that move to Vista or 2007
> hate it. Ask them again in a month or so and they love it.

    Watch out. The Apple Seeds talk that way, too. It reminds
me of that old movie, Invaders from Mars. (?) People walk
out into the backyard and fall into a hole. When they come
back there are two little puncture marks on the backs of
their necks and they're talking like whacked-out zombies:
"I can't wait to buy a new overpriced Mac to replace my
current overpriced Mac... Steve Jobs is my hero. Anyone who
tries a Mac never goes back... I can't wait to buy the new
iPhone."


Sat, 18 Dec 2010 21:35:45 GMT  
 
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