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krazym
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 Will VC 7.1 have Service Packs?
Will there be bug fix service packs released for VC 7.1, or do we have
to wait an additional year for VC 8.0 before we see any fixes?
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| Tue, 28 Jun 2005 06:21:22 GMT |
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Brandon Bray [MSFT
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Will VC 7.1 have Service Packs? Quote:
> Will there be bug fix service packs released for VC 7.1, or do we have
> to wait an additional year for VC 8.0 before we see any fixes?
VC7.1 has not even shipped yet, so we don't know what our plans are for shipping any service packs for VC7.1. Cheerio!
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Brandon Bray Visual C++ Compiler
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| Tue, 28 Jun 2005 08:38:32 GMT |
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MVP for II
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Will VC 7.1 have Service Packs?
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> VC7.1 has not even shipped yet, so we don't know what our plans are for
> shipping any service packs for VC7.1.
This is a signal MS! Customers still think that a product is OK at the moment a service pack no 1 comes in:) I would have answered: Yes, a Sp1 will come one month after RTM... Quote: > Cheerio! > --
> Brandon Bray Visual C++ Compiler
> This posting is provided AS IS with no warranties, and confers no rights.
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| Tue, 28 Jun 2005 19:33:00 GMT |
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Daniel Anders
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Will VC 7.1 have Service Packs? Quote:
> Will there be bug fix service packs released for VC 7.1, or do we have
> to wait an additional year for VC 8.0 before we see any fixes?
You forgot to ask if there will be service pack for VC 8.0, or if we have to wait a year for version 9.0. etc... Daniel Anderson
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| Tue, 28 Jun 2005 22:22:35 GMT |
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Sean Gie
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Will VC 7.1 have Service Packs? Quote: > This is a signal MS!
> Customers still think that a product is OK at the moment a service pack no
1
> comes in:)
Many customers *cough*IT*cough* _wait_ for that first service pack. :) -Sean
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| Thu, 30 Jun 2005 09:55:08 GMT |
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krazym
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Will VC 7.1 have Service Packs? Quote:
> > Will there be bug fix service packs released for VC 7.1, or do we have > > to wait an additional year for VC 8.0 before we see any fixes? > You forgot to ask if there will be service pack for VC 8.0, or if we
> have to wait a year for version 9.0. etc...
Well I thought it was a legit question. There have been a number of bugs in VC 7.1 final beta posted here and most of them are not going to be fixed for the release, so I wanted to get an idea of when they might be fixed.
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| Fri, 01 Jul 2005 09:26:38 GMT |
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Daniel Anders
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Will VC 7.1 have Service Packs? Quote:
> > > Will there be bug fix service packs released for VC 7.1, or do we have > > > to wait an additional year for VC 8.0 before we see any fixes? > > You forgot to ask if there will be service pack for VC 8.0, or if we
> > have to wait a year for version 9.0. etc...
> Well I thought it was a legit question. There have been a number of
> bugs in VC 7.1 final beta posted here and most of them are not going
> to be fixed for the release, so I wanted to get an idea of when they
> might be fixed.
It was a legit question :), just a bit funny. I think that if microsoft says: there will be a service pack, then people will wait for service pack instead of upgrading. And putting together a service pack is a lot of work, they must plan
it. It's only after shipping and having comments back that they'll be
able to know what to put in.
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| Fri, 01 Jul 2005 23:21:04 GMT |
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pete
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Will VC 7.1 have Service Packs? I think this an indication of how unhappy/angry we are about the fact that we are being forced to do another code port just to get the ide etc bug fixes. My first look at the new c++ compiler is showing a hige
amount of compiler breaks in our and third party lib code
( eg the forced use of typename ).
Perhaps we should have waited for the sp1 before moving :-(
Quote: >-----Original Message-----
>> Will there be bug fix service packs released for VC 7.1, or do we have >> to wait an additional year for VC 8.0 before we see any fixes? >VC7.1 has not even shipped yet, so we don't know what our
plans are for
>shipping any service packs for VC7.1.
>Cheerio!
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>Brandon Bray
Visual C++ Compiler
>This posting is provided AS IS with no warranties, and
confers no rights.
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| Sat, 02 Jul 2005 01:18:23 GMT |
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Carl Daniel [MVP
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Will VC 7.1 have Service Packs?
Quote: > My first look at the new c++ compiler is showing a hige
> amount of compiler breaks in our and third party lib code
> ( eg the forced use of typename ).
Your example is not valid (as something that might be "fixed" in a service pack). Rather, it's a case where VS.NET compiled code that was invalid according to the standard - 7.1 is simply telling you that your code was wrong all along. -cd
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| Sat, 02 Jul 2005 01:56:48 GMT |
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Jason Shir
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Will VC 7.1 have Service Packs?
Quote: > I think this an indication of how unhappy/angry we are > about the fact that we are being forced to do another code > port just to get the ide etc bug fixes. > My first look at the new c++ compiler is showing a hige
> amount of compiler breaks in our and third party lib code
> ( eg the forced use of typename ).
I certainly understand your pain. We (the compiler team) have fixed up several large code bases in Microsoft (NT and VS) as well as our own test suites. It was a difficult decision to force the use of typename.
We definitely considered a backwards compatibility switch. In the end, we
felt it was most important to deliver uncompromised ISO C++ conformance. We
also felt that the complexity introduced by trying to maintain a backwards
compatibility switch didn't warrant the risks involved.
Fortunately, it's usually trivial to fix your code. You could almost write
a script to do it. FWIW, fixing your code makes it portable, not that we'd
ever want you to switch compilers :). Of course it also means you'll have
greater access to other modern third party libraries.
Jason Shirk
VC++ Compiler Team
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| Sat, 02 Jul 2005 03:31:02 GMT |
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Brandon Bray [MSFT
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Will VC 7.1 have Service Packs? Quote:
> Well I thought it was a legit question. There have been a number of
> bugs in VC 7.1 final beta posted here and most of them are not going
> to be fixed for the release, so I wanted to get an idea of when they
> might be fixed.
It's definitely a worth while question -- we just don't know what our plans are right now. Usually service packs are customer driven, so issues reported through product support and given a QFE (basically a hot fix) get rolled up into a service pack. I hope that helps!
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Brandon Bray Visual C++ Compiler
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