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Seekermik #1 / 24
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 Xpediter
I recently started a job at a shop that has Xpediter, a product that allows me to view a program line by line as it runs. It's wonderful! The other day I had a S0C7 abend on a program I was testing. It took me only 5 minutes to find the problem (I wasn't initializing the numeric fields). Without Xpediter, it would have taken me hours to figure it out. Does anyone have any Xpediter tips for a new user? -- Michael Shank
http://www.*-*-*.com/
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Sun, 06 Jun 1999 03:00:00 GMT |
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Dave Park #2 / 24
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>I recently started a job at a shop that has Xpediter, a product that >allows me to view a program line by line as it runs. It's wonderful! >The other day I had a S0C7 abend on a program I was testing. It took me >only 5 minutes to find the problem (I wasn't initializing the numeric >fields). Without Xpediter, it would have taken me hours to figure it >out. >Does anyone have any Xpediter tips for a new user?
YES! Beg the folks at your site who are responsible for maintaining and supporting Xpediter NOT to change the names of the libraries every week! At our shop, the setup time required virtually EVERY time I've used it (due to the above inexplicable situation) has resulted in a situation where most folks use it only as a last resort in the most extreme circumstances. I've not used it in over a year. Maybe that's the idea. It IS a resource hog, but it's also every bit as wonderful as you say. --
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Sun, 06 Jun 1999 03:00:00 GMT |
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Tim Oxl #3 / 24
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>I recently started a job at a shop that has Xpediter, a product that >allows me to view a program line by line as it runs. It's wonderful! >The other day I had a S0C7 abend on a program I was testing. It took me >only 5 minutes to find the problem (I wasn't initializing the numeric >fields). Without Xpediter, it would have taken me hours to figure it >out. >Does anyone have any Xpediter tips for a new user? >--
Xpediter will allow you to place file and w/s fields at the top of your screen, so as you walk thru the code with Xpediter, you can watch the values in each field change. Tim Oxler TEO Computer Technologies Inc.
http://www.i1.net/~troxler http://users.aol.com/TEOcorp
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Sun, 06 Jun 1999 03:00:00 GMT |
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Bob Noye #4 / 24
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> I recently started a job at a shop that has Xpediter, a product that > allows me to view a program line by line as it runs. It's wonderful! > The other day I had a S0C7 abend on a program I was testing. It took me > only 5 minutes to find the problem (I wasn't initializing the numeric > fields). Without Xpediter, it would have taken me hours to figure it > out. > Does anyone have any Xpediter tips for a new user? > -- > Michael Shank
> http://serve.com/seeker/
I have only one piece of advice: RTFM! --
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Sun, 06 Jun 1999 03:00:00 GMT |
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Loren G. Foster, CD #5 / 24
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If it would take your hours to figure out a S0C7, there are no tips that would help you with Xpediter.
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Mon, 07 Jun 1999 03:00:00 GMT |
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Dave Park #6 / 24
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>> Does anyone have any Xpediter tips for a new user? >I have only one piece of advice: RTFM!
If you're at the telecomm giant where I'm currently contracting, I'd add one more to that: TTFAFM (Try To Find A ...). THEN RTFM.. --
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Mon, 07 Jun 1999 03:00:00 GMT |
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Dave Park #7 / 24
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 Xpediter
Quote: >If it would take your hours to figure out a S0C7, there are no tips that >would help you with Xpediter.
And if it's that easy for YOU to forget what it was like when YOU started out... --
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Mon, 07 Jun 1999 03:00:00 GMT |
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Kent Verhag #8 / 24
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 Xpediter
Quote: > If it would take your hours to figure out a S0C7, there are no tips that > would help you with Xpediter.
Next time I have a question, I know who NOT to ask for help. -- ----------------------- Kent Verhage IT Management Systems Northwestern University
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Mon, 07 Jun 1999 03:00:00 GMT |
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jerrw.. #9 / 24
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On Wed, 18 Dec 1996 01:17:34 -0600, Seekermike Quote:
>I recently started a job at a shop that has Xpediter, a product that >allows me to view a program line by line as it runs. It's wonderful! >The other day I had a S0C7 abend on a program I was testing. It took me >only 5 minutes to find the problem (I wasn't initializing the numeric >fields). Without Xpediter, it would have taken me hours to figure it >out. >Does anyone have any Xpediter tips for a new user? >-- >Michael Shank
>http://serve.com/seeker/
Xpediter by far is the best debugging tool for the mainframe. I used if for 5 years at my last gig. One thing that is very nice, is the Quick Start feature. Just place the JCL that you would normally use to run your program (prod or test) in the spot for the xpediter jcl and the Enter (submit). Xpediter is smart enough to find the program, even with multiple steps, convert and expand your jcl and run your program. Another thing that is quit useful is the batch connect feature... especially if you have multiple steps and/or you are using tape files. With batch connect you can run your job as you normally would but when it comes to the step that executes your program, PRESTO, up pops your debug screen!
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Mon, 07 Jun 1999 03:00:00 GMT |
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Geir Knaplun #10 / 24
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 Xpediter
Quote: > If it would take your hours to figure out a S0C7, there are no tips that > would help you with Xpediter.
????????????????? Bullshit!! An experienced programmer will solve a trivial S0C7 quickly sans Xpediter,.. but for a novice Xpediter will make him/her solve it even quicker!! What an answer to give!!! :-(( Geir Knaplund
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Tue, 08 Jun 1999 03:00:00 GMT |
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j.. #11 / 24
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RTFM? What's an M? At my shop we have Xpediter on 100 or so machines, and 1 manual, which the systems guys protect from the working guys. I use Xpd probably once a year. It seems that every time I go to use it there is a new version, or at least some changes which make me spend as much time time relearning Xpd as is spent actually debugging my program.
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(snip) >> Does anyone have any Xpediter tips for a new user? >> -- >> Michael Shank
>> http://serve.com/seeker/ >I have only one piece of advice: RTFM! >--
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Tue, 08 Jun 1999 03:00:00 GMT |
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Loren G. Foster, CD #12 / 24
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Hardly, but then we only had old fashion dumps to read. Seems that way to many new programmers don't know the underlying basics, and therefore lean on tools like Expediter to solve their problems for them. I am not a big advocate of learning the hard way, but every shop seems to have a different version or just a different de{*filter*}. Learning the basic method, then learn the tools...
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Tue, 08 Jun 1999 03:00:00 GMT |
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j.. #13 / 24
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> RTFM? What's an M? At my shop we have Xpediter on 100 or so > machines, and 1 manual, which the systems guys protect from the > working guys. > I use Xpd probably once a year. It seems that every time I go to use > it there is a new version, or at least some changes which make me > spend as much time time relearning Xpd as is spent actually debugging > my program.
> (snip) > >> Does anyone have any Xpediter tips for a new user? > >> -- > >> Michael Shank
> >> http://www.*-*-*.com/ > >I have only one piece of advice: RTFM! > >--
In the absence of an M try the F1 key, alot of documentation exists exists online.... -- Legal Warning: Anyone sending me unsolicited/commercial email WILL be charged a $100 proof-reading fee. Do NOT send junk email to me - consider this an official notice: "By US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), a computer/modem/printer meets the definition of a telephone fax machine. By Sec.227(b)(1)(C), it is unlawful to send any unsolicited adverti{*filter*}t to such equipment. By Sec.227(b)(3)(C), a violation of the aforementioned Section is punishable by action to recover actual monetary loss, or $500, whichever is greater, for each violation."
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Thu, 10 Jun 1999 03:00:00 GMT |
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rwid.. #14 / 24
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Too bad the Xpediter manual is not currently furnished in softcopy form. Probably would not take 1 MB in IBM's bookmangler format, then everyone could have access to one, without chopping down trees. Rex Widmer Builder of software archeology tools and other strange programs to help survive in a legacy based world.
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Fri, 11 Jun 1999 03:00:00 GMT |
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Steve William #15 / 24
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> Too bad the Xpediter manual is not currently furnished in softcopy form. > Probably would not take 1 MB in IBM's bookmangler format, then everyone > could have access to one, without chopping down trees.
Yes, Xpediter is an excellent tool, and having it on Bookmanager would be nice. Putting 'h' on a field display line shows the value in hex, useful for error codes in Hogan. Any Hogan programmers out there? No? Oh, well... ?????????????????????????????????????????????
??? http://www.yi.com/home/WilliamsSteve ?????????????????????????????????????????????
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Fri, 11 Jun 1999 03:00:00 GMT |
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