postscript, 30+ Pages/Sec PS Printing ??

Tim Magg
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30+ Pages/Sec PS Printing ??

Is there a printer that can handle 30+ pages per second for
postscript printing?
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Wed, 08 May 1996 04:39:58 GMT

Ian Kemmi
#2 / 18

30+ Pages/Sec PS Printing ??

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>Is there a printer that can handle 30+ pages per second for
>postscript printing?

Delphax (who hail from somewhere in Canade, I believe - Toronto?),
do sheet-fed duplex printers up to 150ppm, and web-fed single-sided
`printers' (actually a variable print station for a printing
press) that go up to 820ppm.

Their machines are just now acquiring PostScript ability. To
keep them fed at 150ppm, you'll probably need to dedicate one
Sun to doing the rasterising for them....

I believe some fast Xerox printers have PS capability too.
Seybold recently reviewed a (somewhat hacked) solution using
PCs with i960 boards in, running Adobe PS. They reported that
the printers only ran at full speed if you were doing lots of
copies of a short document. I think Xerox printers can also
be driven from SGI's Impressario product.

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Wed, 08 May 1996 22:34:59 GMT

Doug Obrec
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30+ Pages/Sec PS Printing ??

Quote:

>>Is there a printer that can handle 30+ pages per second for
>>postscript printing?

The QMS 3225 Print System prints at 32 pages per minute.
The QMS 4525 Print System prints at 45 pages per minute.

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Wed, 08 May 1996 22:57:35 GMT

Tim Magg
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30+ Pages/Sec PS Printing ??

%
% >Is there a printer that can handle 30+ pages per (minute) for
% >postscript printing?
%
% Delphax (who hail from somewhere in Canade, I believe - Toronto?),
% do sheet-fed duplex printers up to 150ppm, and web-fed single-sided
% `printers' (actually a variable print station for a printing
% press) that go up to 820ppm.
%
% Their machines are just now acquiring PostScript ability. To
% keep them fed at 150ppm, you'll probably need to dedicate one
% Sun to doing the rasterising for them....
%
% I believe some fast Xerox printers have PS capability too.
% Seybold recently reviewed a (somewhat hacked) solution using
% PCs with i960 boards in, running Adobe PS. They reported that
% the printers only ran at full speed if you were doing lots of
% copies of a short document. I think Xerox printers can also
% be driven from SGI's Impressario product.

I take it you don't have contacts? Do you know someone who does
for Delphax?

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Sun, 12 May 1996 06:57:04 GMT

Ian Kemmi
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30+ Pages/Sec PS Printing ??

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>%
>% >Is there a printer that can handle 30+ pages per (minute) for
>% >postscript printing?
>%
>% Delphax (who hail from somewhere in Canade, I believe - Toronto?),
>% do sheet-fed duplex printers up to 150ppm, and web-fed single-sided
>% `printers' (actually a variable print station for a printing
>% press) that go up to 820ppm.
>%

>I take it you don't have contacts? Do you know someone who does
>for Delphax?

I do *now*. Try:

Delphax systems
5030 Timberlea Blvd
Missisauga, Ont
Canada L4W 2S5

Tel 905 238 2961
Tel 905 238 3402

At XPLOR the other week, they were apparently rendering mixed
text & graphics pages at a sustained rate of 83ppm.

BTW. An omission from my original posting was Kodak, who make
printers in th 50-80 ppm range. Sorry.

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Tue, 14 May 1996 03:04:06 GMT

Gordon Torr
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30+ Pages/Sec PS Printing ??

I looked them up in the local telephone directory:

DELPHAX SYSTEMS
5030 Timberlea....Cooksville 238-2961

The area code is 905. I also called the number and confirmed that this
is the company that manufactures high-speed printers.

Gord Torrie

Sun, 12 May 1996 20:34:07 GMT

Greg Blumers [3-677
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30+ Pages/Sec PS Printing ??

I am reposting this article as it never made it off-site last week due to
local server problems.

Quote:

>>>Is there a printer that can handle 30+ pages per second for
>>>postscript printing?

>The QMS 3225 Print System prints at 32 pages per minute.
>The QMS 4525 Print System prints at 45 pages per minute.

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Are those Postscript printing speeds? If so, what benchmark are you using?
It would seem to me that you can easily state the print engine speed when
printing simple ASCII text, but Postscript documents can have varying
degrees of complexity. The thoughput of a Postscript printer is generally
limited by the Postscript rendering engine. For example, our 7 year old
Talaris 1590T printers are rated at 15 PPM but generally produce 1-2
Postscript pages per minute.

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Greg Blumers Sverdrup Technology, Inc.
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Sat, 18 May 1996 06:37:00 GMT

Doug Obrec
#8 / 18

30+ Pages/Sec PS Printing ??

Quote:

>>>>Is there a printer that can handle 30+ pages per second for
>>>>postscript printing?

>>The QMS 3225 Print System prints at 32 pages per minute.
>>The QMS 4525 Print System prints at 45 pages per minute.
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>Are those Postscript printing speeds? If so, what benchmark are you using?
>It would seem to me that you can easily state the print engine speed when
>printing simple ASCII text, but Postscript documents can have varying
>degrees of complexity. The thoughput of a Postscript printer is generally
>limited by the Postscript rendering engine. For example, our 7 year old
>Talaris 1590T printers are rated at 15 PPM but generally produce 1-2
>Postscript pages per minute.

Those are engine printing speeds. The controller is powered by a MIPs
R3000 RISC processor, which has enough horse power to process jobs
at rated engine speed. If you care to gain more insight into the
aforementioned products, I suggest that you contact a QMS sales
office for additional product information and possibly a demo.

Sounds like it's time to replace your 1590T.
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Sat, 18 May 1996 22:36:16 GMT

Marcel Weih
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30+ Pages/Sec PS Printing ??

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>Those are engine printing speeds. The controller is powered by a MIPs
>R3000 RISC processor, which has enough horse power to process jobs
>at rated engine speed. If you care to gain more insight into the

Yeah, sure it can. On what types of pages? I'd bet I can make
it go slower than rated engine speed :-)

(Anybody wnat to try some IFS PostScript code ? )

Marcel

Sun, 19 May 1996 04:32:55 GMT

Doug Obrec
#10 / 18

30+ Pages/Sec PS Printing ??

Quote:

>>Those are engine printing speeds. The controller is powered by a MIPs
>>R3000 RISC processor, which has enough horse power to process jobs
>>at rated engine speed. If you care to gain more insight into the
>Yeah, sure it can. On what types of pages? I'd bet I can make
>it go slower than rated engine speed :-)
>(Anybody wnat to try some IFS PostScript code ? )

Any deviant can turn a 32 page per minute printer into a 1 hour per
page printer, including yours truly. ;-)

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Sun, 19 May 1996 06:33:04 GMT

John Lagr
#11 / 18

30+ Pages/Sec PS Printing ??

Well, to blow our own trumpet:

The Rank Xerox DocuPrint 390 is capable of sustained throughput of 92 ppm.
It will be almost as fast in duplex too.

The IOT is controlled by a SPARCstation 10.

Sun, 19 May 1996 01:06:41 GMT

Greg Blumers [3-677
#12 / 18

30+ Pages/Sec PS Printing ??

Quote:

>>>Those are engine printing speeds. The controller is powered by a MIPs
>>>R3000 RISC processor, which has enough horse power to process jobs
>>>at rated engine speed. If you care to gain more insight into the

>>Yeah, sure it can. On what types of pages? I'd bet I can make
>>it go slower than rated engine speed :-)

>>(Anybody wnat to try some IFS PostScript code ? )

>Any deviant can turn a 32 page per minute printer into a 1 hour per
>page printer, including yours truly. ;-)

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That was my point! Why aren't Postscript printers rated against a
standard benchmark test suite? Computers are rated by the SPEC suite,
X-terminals by Winmarks. Why isn't there a test standard for Postscript
printers?

We've been using a couple of Postscript test documents we got off of the
network to perform Postscript printer performance comparisons. If QMS has
such a good printer then you should welcome an industry standard test which
would allow your printer to shine above the rest.

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The opinions expressed are my own, and not that of my employer.

Greg Blumers Sverdrup Technology, Inc.
Systems Programmer c/o NASA Lewis Research Center
(216)433-6777 Mail Stop 142-2
21000 Brookpark Road

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Sun, 19 May 1996 05:42:00 GMT

Doug Obrec
#13 / 18

30+ Pages/Sec PS Printing ??

Quote:

>>Any deviant can turn a 32 page per minute printer into a 1 hour per
>>page printer, including yours truly. ;-)
>That was my point! Why aren't Postscript printers rated against a
>standard benchmark test suite? ...

A standard unified benchmark suite does not exist in the public domain
that I am aware of.

Quote:

>...Computers are rated by the SPEC suite,
>X-terminals by Winmarks. Why isn't there a test standard for Postscript
>printers?

There should be.

Quote:

>We've been using a couple of Postscript test documents we got off of the
>network to perform Postscript printer performance comparisons. If QMS has
>such a good printer then you should welcome an industry standard test which
>would allow your printer to shine above the rest.

Anyone care to provide non-proprietary files or the location of public
domain benchmark files for the beginning of a benchmark suite? I don't think
that a printer company should provide any files - conflict of interest and
all that jazz.

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Sun, 19 May 1996 11:51:31 GMT