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Hi,

Just a question for VAST specialists out there:  Is it really
true that the entry level for IBM's VAST is its "enterprise
edition" at $5000 a pop?  Don't they have a "personal edition"
or some such?  I couldn't find one, either at the IBM site or
just by general searching.

Thanks,

  --jtg

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Tue, 23 Mar 2004 08:32:02 GMT  
 IBM's VisualAge Smalltalk
Jan,

In fact there is no such beast as a personal or even non-commercial
license for VA ST. There used to be something like that back in '95. It
was without envy and a lot of the connector frameworks (CICS, MQ and the
like). So if you want to "play around", you can only use the try&buy
license which expires after (only) 30 days.
If you plan to support IBM in providing a tool for the commercial
market, IBM offers a very, very, very cheap license you can use during
development. When you sell your tool, you'll have to "upgrade" to the
full 5000 USD - license.
To learn more about this one, visit: www.developer.ibm.com and learn
more about IBM partnership.
If you need it for educational purposes, there is a program called
university outreach. Not sure about the fees, but you find a link on the
VA ST homepage: http://www.software.ibm.com/ad/smalltalk .

I think IBM is not really interested in selling a cheap VA ST version,
because they'd have to support it. If they are thinking about something
like a non-commercial licence? Maybe someone from IBM can comment on
this

HTH

Joachim

Jan Theodore Galkowski schrieb:

Quote:

> Hi,

> Just a question for VAST specialists out there:  Is it really
> true that the entry level for IBM's VAST is its "enterprise
> edition" at $5000 a pop?  Don't they have a "personal edition"
> or some such?  I couldn't find one, either at the IBM site or
> just by general searching.

> Thanks,

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Tue, 23 Mar 2004 18:02:13 GMT  
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Quote:

> Just a question for VAST specialists out there:  Is it really
> true that the entry level for IBM's VAST is its "enterprise
> edition" at $5000 a pop?  Don't they have a "personal edition"
> or some such?  I couldn't find one, either at the IBM site or
> just by general searching.

You can get access to inexpensive, working copies of VAST via IBM's Partner
World for Developers program:

    http://www.developer.ibm.com/

As a commercial member (~$595), you can get a single, "fully licensed, non
restricted" copy of VAST 5.5 through the IBM Software Mall for $41.

    http://www.developer.ibm.com/welcome/softmall.html

This gets you a *single* non-commercial copy that can be used for
"evaluation, demonstration, development and testing purposes to develop
software that will primarily be marketed to end users". It can't be used for
"fee work or productive use" however. You can get single copies of almost
every other piece of software that IBM makes very cheaply as well.

Also, once you become a member of Partner World for Developers, IBM provides
all of the necessary product keys to unlock any of the VAST components
(which will work with the standard VAST eval CD).

    http://www.developer.ibm.com/sdp/websphere/index.html

-Eric



Thu, 25 Mar 2004 10:37:44 GMT  
 
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