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Jochen Riekho
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 Some feature requests for D6 Hi... as it seems that Dolphin6 is coming somewhere in about this years second
quarter, I would like to put some (small) feature requests:
1. I would appreciate a "Copy class" feature very convenient. I frequently
want to try out different ideas and discard all but the best a while later.
Now, I always have to copy all methods by hand to my other candidate, which
is annoying.
2. Please make the conversion of numbers with radices other than 10, e.g.
16rFF, to decimal optional on code formatting (or don't do it at all).
16rFF00FF is much more readable than 16711935 for example.
3. From my early Smalltalk days: Please warn if one tries to overwrite a
system global in a workspace.
E.g. Object := nil. is easily typed but kills the image. You should probably
make it an optional check, but enable it on the initial image.
4. Integrate SmallLintBrowser with the base system (it is not necessary to
deliver an AIBO, though ;-).
Otherwise, keep it as stable and cool as it is already!
My two cents...
Ciao
...Jochen
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| Thu, 14 Jul 2005 18:25:07 GMT |
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Ian Bartholome
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Some feature requests for D6 Jochen, I'm not sure if you're aware of the following so I thought it worth a
mention...
Quote: > 1. I would appreciate a "Copy class" feature very convenient. I
> frequently want to try out different ideas and discard all but the
> best a while later. Now, I always have to copy all methods by hand to
> my other candidate, which is annoying.
If you drag/drop the "All" category from the old class to the new (remembering to do both the class and instance side) then this automatically copies all the methods in one quick operation. --
Ian
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| Thu, 14 Jul 2005 19:05:27 GMT |
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Jochen Riekho
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Some feature requests for D6 Quote: > If you drag/drop the "All" category from the old class to the new
> (remembering to do both the class and instance side) then this
automatically
> copies all the methods in one quick operation.
Wow, this IS nice. It is not quite as nice as "Copy class" refactoring but much faster than copying all methody by hand. Thanks a lot!
Ciao
...Jochen
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| Thu, 14 Jul 2005 19:12:53 GMT |
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rush
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Some feature requests for D6
Quote: > Hi... > as it seems that Dolphin6 is coming somewhere in about this years second
> quarter, I would like to put some (small) feature requests:
Ohh, this is truely novel approach! Usually we try to fish out some kind of release schedule from Andy or Blair, but this so much better, we start mentioning dates by ourselves and let them cope with them ;)) Especially since Andy and Blair has grown resistant to our usual set of trick like questions "Andy I am planning my garderobe, so do you think that Dolphin-xyz T-shirt will have long or short sleeves" :) rush
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http://www.templatetamer.org/
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| Thu, 14 Jul 2005 21:23:47 GMT |
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Andreas Wacknit
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Some feature requests for D6 Quote:
> Hi... > as it seems that Dolphin6 is coming somewhere in about this years second
> quarter, I would like to put some (small) feature requests:
> 1. I would appreciate a "Copy class" feature very convenient. I frequently
> want to try out different ideas and discard all but the best a while
> later. Now, I always have to copy all methods by hand to my other
> candidate, which is annoying.
> 2. Please make the conversion of numbers with radices other than 10, e.g.
> 16rFF, to decimal optional on code formatting (or don't do it at all).
> 16rFF00FF is much more readable than 16711935 for example.
> 3. From my early smalltalk days: Please warn if one tries to overwrite a
> system global in a workspace.
> E.g. Object := nil. is easily typed but kills the image. You should
> probably make it an optional check, but enable it on the initial image.
> 4. Integrate SmallLintBrowser with the base system (it is not necessary to
> deliver an AIBO, though ;-).
> Otherwise, keep it as stable and cool as it is already!
> My two cents...
> Ciao
> ...Jochen
Before releasing Dolphin 6 they should release the documentation for Dolphin 5! IMO it is a shame that Object Arts is not able to release it for months. I am very disappointed... SCNR,
Andreas
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| Fri, 15 Jul 2005 00:27:48 GMT |
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Bill Schwa
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Some feature requests for D6 Adreas, Quote: > Before releasing Dolphin 6 they should release the documentation for
Dolphin
> 5! IMO it is a shame that Object Arts is not able to release it for
months.
> I am very disappointed...
I suspect it's more a matter of priority than ability. IIRC, they mentioned something about a problem with conversion into either the new MS help format or a precursor step. The ability to search the compiled help is nice, but I found the HTML a lot more useful on whole, especially with the excellent work that Ian brought to DSDN for searching loose HTML files. Loose files would also skip at least some of the problems, and if screen shots got a little out of date, then people noticing it could submit updates via email for OA to (at their discretion) incorporate in updates. Have a good one,
Bill
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Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D.
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| Fri, 15 Jul 2005 06:01:48 GMT |
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Smalltalkian
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Some feature requests for D6
Quote: > Adreas, > > Before releasing Dolphin 6 they should release the documentation for
> Dolphin
> > 5! IMO it is a shame that Object Arts is not able to release it for
> months.
> > I am very disappointed...
> I suspect it's more a matter of priority than ability. IIRC, they
mentioned
> something about a problem with conversion into either the new MS help
format
> or a precursor step. The ability to search the compiled help is nice, but
I
> found the HTML a lot more useful on whole, especially with the excellent
> work that Ian brought to DSDN for searching loose HTML files. Loose files
> would also skip at least some of the problems, and if screen shots got a
> little out of date, then people noticing it could submit updates via email
> for OA to (at their discretion) incorporate in updates.
Bill, I do think that you get an inportant point here, and it is the more
viability to be collaborative with the comunity aspect of develop process.
This is documentation.
Closed help documentation could be fine, but if HTML make it easier to
maintain, with this ammount of new ideas, tips, FAQs, by time unit, I think
that html could be better. By the way, thanks to the Rush tip I'm learning a
lot from the wiki :)
best regards
Seb
Quote: > Have a good one,
> Bill
> --
> Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D.
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| Fri, 15 Jul 2005 07:42:24 GMT |
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Andy Bowe
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Some feature requests for D6 Rush, Quote: > > as it seems that Dolphin6 is coming somewhere in about this years second > > quarter, I would like to put some (small) feature requests: > Ohh, this is truely novel approach! Usually we try to fish out some kind
of
> release schedule from Andy or Blair, but this so much better, we start
> mentioning dates by ourselves and let them cope with them ;)) Especially
> since Andy and Blair has grown resistant to our usual set of trick like
> questions "Andy I am planning my garderobe, so do you think that
Dolphin-xyz
> T-shirt will have long or short sleeves" :)
:-) Best Regards,
Andy Bower
Dolphin Support
http://www.object-arts.com
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Are you trying too hard?
http://www.object-arts.com/Relax.htm
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| Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:00:36 GMT |
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Jochen Riekho
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Some feature requests for D6 Quote: > Ohh, this is truely novel approach! Usually we try to fish out some kind
of
> release schedule from Andy or Blair, but this so much better, we start
> mentioning dates by ourselves and let them cope with them ;)) Especially
> since Andy and Blair has grown resistant to our usual set of trick like
> questions "Andy I am planning my garderobe, so do you think that
Dolphin-xyz
> T-shirt will have long or short sleeves" :)
HTH ;-) Ciao
...Jochen
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| Sat, 16 Jul 2005 02:22:05 GMT |
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ar
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Some feature requests for D6 It's great to hear the D6 will be released at the end of March; I would like to add a feature to the wishlist: real breakpoints. I miss this feature from VAST. Alan R.
:)
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| Sat, 16 Jul 2005 11:15:17 GMT |
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ar
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Some feature requests for D6 Quote:
>It's great to hear the D6 will be released at the end of March;
For anyone joining the thread late, just joking :) Alan
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| Sat, 16 Jul 2005 11:31:38 GMT |
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Jochen Riekho
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Some feature requests for D6 Quote: > >It's great to hear the D6 will be released at the end of March;
End of march is also fairly aggressive interpretation of "somewhere in about this years second quarter" ;-) Ciao
...Jochen
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| Sat, 16 Jul 2005 16:40:01 GMT |
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Blair McGlasha
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Some feature requests for D6
Quote: > Hi... > as it seems that Dolphin6 is coming somewhere in about this years second
> quarter, I would like to put some (small) feature requests:
> 1. I would appreciate a "Copy class" feature very convenient. I frequently
> want to try out different ideas and discard all but the best a while
later.
> Now, I always have to copy all methods by hand to my other candidate,
which
> is annoying.
As Ian says, you can drag whole categories of methods, including 'All'. You could also create a subclass :-). Quote: > 2. Please make the conversion of numbers with radices other than 10, e.g.
> 16rFF, to decimal optional on code formatting (or don't do it at all).
> 16rFF00FF is much more readable than 16711935 for example.
The revised RB parser and formatter which maintain the format of numeric literals is already part of D6, so rest assured your carefully formatted numbers will stay as you intended. Quote: > 3. From my early smalltalk days: Please warn if one tries to overwrite a
> system global in a workspace.
> E.g. Object := nil. is easily typed but kills the image. You should
probably
> make it an optional check, but enable it on the initial image.
We could certainly add an enhancement request for that, but whether it gets done will depend on the amount of effort involved. Quote: > 4. Integrate SmallLintBrowser with the base system (it is not necessary to
> deliver an AIBO, though ;-).
We plan to include the CodeMentorPlugin in D6 pro: http://object-arts.com/Lib/Downloads/5.0/CodeMentor.png Quote: > Otherwise, keep it as stable and cool as it is already!
Thanks Blair
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| Sat, 16 Jul 2005 22:08:04 GMT |
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Jochen Riekho
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Some feature requests for D6 Quote: > As Ian says, you can drag whole categories of methods, including 'All'.
You
> could also create a subclass :-).
Not exactly, as messing in one try then can affect the other(s). Quote: >We plan to include the CodeMentorPlugin in D6 pro:
>http://object-arts.com/Lib/Downloads/5.0/CodeMentor.png
Wow! So is the Aibo included or optional ad-on? ;-) Ciao
...Jochen
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| Sat, 16 Jul 2005 22:47:45 GMT |
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Blair McGlasha
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Some feature requests for D6
Quote: > > As Ian says, you can drag whole categories of methods, including 'All'. > You > > could also create a subclass :-). > Not exactly, as messing in one try then can affect the other(s).
Yes, modifications to the superclass would then affect the others, but normally when using this technique one copies down the bits one wants to modify to the experimental subclass. Quote: > >We plan to include the CodeMentorPlugin in D6 pro:
> >http://object-arts.com/Lib/Downloads/5.0/CodeMentor.png
> Wow! So is the Aibo included or optional ad-on? ;-)
Although there is the precedent of British car manufacturers (mostly no long with us) selling products for significantly less than what they cost to make, we aim to make a only a small loss on each of copy of Dolphin sold. I don't think even we could manage to accommodate a $1000 loss per copy for long, so you can assume it will be an optional extra :-) Regards
Blair
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| Sat, 16 Jul 2005 23:50:37 GMT |
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