Last updated on 15 January 1992.
If you have corrections, clarifications, additions, comments or
updates, please send them to one or more of the addresses at the end
of this note.
This is the second of two regularly posted articles to comp.lang.forth.
Both of these messages are posted on or about the 1st and the 15th of
each month. The other article's subject is:
Forth On-line Resource/Technical Help Letter
It describes what ForthNet is and how to access it. It may be helpful
to read it before reading this message.
List of questions answered, in order of appearance, (*) denotes new or
modified entries:
How can I contact FIG (Forth Interest Group)?
What other organizations and publications write about,
sponsor or promote Forth?
What other Internet/UseNet Forth mailing lists are there?
Where can I find the latest BASIS for ANSI Forth?
Where can I find a Forth for the 8051/8031?
Where can I find a Forth for the SUN?
Where can I find a Forth for the MAC?
Where can I find a Forth for a DSP?
Where can I find a Forth for a Transputer?
Where can I find a Forth for a Tandy TRS-80?
Where can I find a Forth written in C?
How can I find an anonymous FTP or email server that
has "foo"? (Or, just what is "archie" anyway?)
(*) Where can I find programs for Unix that can understand
.ARC, .ZOO and .ZIP files?
What if I want to find a PD/ShareWare Forth for the BrouHaHa-7245?
QUESTION: How can I contact FIG (Forth Interest Group)?
ANSWER: Forth Interest Group
P.O Box 8231
San Jose, CA 95155
(408) 277-0668
(408) 286-8988 FAX
[Information supplied by Dennis Ruffer]
QUESTION: What other organizations and publications write about,
sponsor or promote Forth?
ANSWER: The Computer Journal
P. O. Box 12
S. Plainfield, NJ 07080-0012
- U. S. A. -
Phone: (US access) 908-755-6186
ISSN # ????
Association for Computing Machinery
Special Interest Group on Forth (SIGForth)
11 West 42nd St.
New York, NY 10036 USA
(212)869-7440
ISSN # ????
[ACM info supplied by Alan T. Furman]
The Journal of Forth Application and Research [JFAR]
The Institute for Applied Forth Research, Inc.
70 Elmwood Avenue
Rochester, NY 14611 USA
ISSN #0738-2022
[JFAR info is from 1989, please correct me if it has
changed. -dwp]
Dr. Dobb's Journal has the occasional article or two.
PO Box 56188
Boulder, CO 80322-6188 USA
800-456-1215 (USA and Canada)
303-447-9330 (All other countries)
ISSN # 1044-789X
Embedded Systems Programming has the occasional article.
Embedded Systems Programming
Miller Freeman Publications
600 Harrison St.
San Francisco, CA 94107
(415) 905-2200
[E.S.P. info courtesy of Jack Woehr and Paul Zander]
Mountain View Press
Box 429 Route 2
La Honda, CA 94020 USA
voice/fax/modem (via menu) (415) 747-0760
[ MVP info curtesy of Phil Koopman]
QUESTION: What other Internet/UseNet Forth mailing lists are there?
ANSWER:
Quote:
>Subject: Forth Education List
>Organization: McMaster University, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
>Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1991 20:12:59 GMT
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><<< >>>
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><<< F T H E D D U U >>>
><<< F OOO R RRR TTTTT HHHH E D D U U >>>
><<< FFFF O O RR T H H == EEEE D D U U >>>
><<< F O O R T H H == E D D U U >>>
><<< F O O R T H H E D D U U >>>
><<< F OOO R T H H EEEEE DDDDD UUU >>>
><<< >>>
><<< Forth Education Working Group List Vol. 1 No. 1 July 1991 >>>
><<< >>>
><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>The annual Working Group on Forth Education was held at the 1991 Rochester
>Forth Conference. As chairman of the group, I pointed out that apart from
>some activity resulting from the 1990 Working Group, notably on the part
>of Jack Brown of BCIT, there was very little carry over from one year to
>the next. So, I volunteered to start and administer a Forth Education List
>on Internet. I have now decided to publish an electronic newsletter--more
>or less regularly--and this is it!
>This issue is being sent to some of the people who attended the 1991 FEWG,
>namely, those who gave me their electronic addresses. You can subscribe to
>the list by sending an e-mail request to
>Contributions to the newsletter can be sent (for editing) to
>Submissions to the list can be sent to
>Topics for both types of submissions that have been suggested at the WG
>include
> * Forth textbooks
> * Educational Forth boards
> * Forth teaching resources
> * Teaching the ANSI Standard Version of Forth
> * How to increase programming productivity through education
> * Boot Prom educational materials
> * anything else impinging on education and Forth
>Nicholas Solntseff
>Department of Computer Science and Systems
>McMaster University
>Hamilton, Ontario
>Canada
>L8S 4K1
>1-416-525-9140 xtn 3443
>**
QUESTION: Where can I find the latest BASIS for ANSI Forth?
ANSWER: As of this writing the latest version of BASIS is 17.
You can get it from FIG's library on GEnie.
You can order a printed copy from FIG (see above for
how to contact FIG).
You can FTP a copy from cpsc.ucalgary.ca, anonymous FTP,
directory /pub/forth, file basis17.arc.
You can get a copy emailed from FNEAS:
To do so you *MUST* include in the BODY of your message:
your email address relative to the Internet
AND the name of the file you want
(in this case BASIS17.ARC)
QUESTION: Where can I find a Forth for the 8051/8031?
ANSWER:
Quote:
>Newsgroups: comp.lang.forth
>Subject: Re: Finding a Forth for the 8051/8031
>Date: 2 Jan 91 06:23:19 GMT
> ... <stuff> ...
>>using the 8051 for such, since (as I understand it) it is quite flexible,
> ... <stuff> ...
>>I'm a forth novice, but a native forth version of this chip would help
>In reply, I repost:
> In the years that I have been discussing Forth on USENET, one
> of the most frequently-asked questions I have received is:
> "Where is a PD Forth for the 8051?"
> Dr. C.H. Ting's October 1990 newsletter for his "Offete
> Enterprises" samizdat house (garage, actually) contains
> the following two items:
> 2104. eForth Model and 8086 Implementation, Bill Muench and
> C.H. Ting -- $25.00
>>>>>> 2105. 8051 eForth, C. H. Ting -- $25.00 <<<<<
> "A small ROM based Forth system ... Source code is in MASM (!! -jax)
> ... IBM 5.25 disk ... With 8051 eForth Implementation Note."
> The address & phone is:
> Offete Enterprises, Inc.
> 1306 South "B" Street
> San Mateo, CA 94402
> (415) 574-8250
> Alternatively, EFORTH51.ZIP may be downloaded free of charge
>from the RealTime Control and Forth Board (RCFB), ( telephone number
>in the .signature below), or from the GEnie Forth Interest Group
>RoundTable (page 711).
>--
> <JAX on GEnie >< for ANS > \\\ /// ///====\\\ ///\\\
> <SYSOP RCFB (303) 278-0364>< Forth > \\\/// /// \\\ /// \\\
'uunet!willett!fneas'.
To do so you *MUST* include in the BODY of your message:
your email address relative to the Internet
AND the name of the file you want (in this case EFORTH51.ZIP).
QUESTION: Where can I find a Forth for the SUN?
ANSWER:
Quote:
>Newsgroups: comp.lang.forth
>Subject: Forth for Sun
>Date: 9 Apr 91 01:11:31 GMT
>I know of four Forth's that run on Suns, in increasing order of price:
>a) Open Boot PROM - built-in to the SPARCstation PROMs. Inaccessible from
> the Unix environment; you have to interrupt the boot process and
> then type "n" to get to Forth.
>b) TILE - shareware, $50 suggested contribution to Mikael Patel.
> Written in C, runs on Suns. Available from the net, but I'm not
> sure how to get to it from your site. Maybe somebody else knows.
>c) C Forth 83 - $75 from Bradley Forthware. Written in C, runs on
> several machines. Tape or floppy.
>d) Sun Forth - $200 from Bradley Forthware. Written in metacompiled
> Forth/assembler. Unix version of the Forth in the SPARCstation PROMs,
> with extensions. Tape or floppy.
TILE is also posted to alt.sources and should be available through any
of the alt.sources archives.
'uunet!willett!fneas'.
To do so you *MUST* include in the BODY of your message:
your email
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