Dylan on Win32, Linux? 
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 Dylan on Win32, Linux?

Hi.
I have been fan of C++. It is indeed wonderful language. I see however,
that this group is pretty dead right now...
I just wonder if any of you have programmed with dylan and what do you
think of it.
Pavel.

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Mon, 18 Sep 2000 03:00:00 GMT  
 Dylan on Win32, Linux?


Quote:
> I just wonder if any of you have programmed with dylan and what do you
> think of it.

I did some programming in both Harlequin and Gwydion Dylan. The latter
is available for both platforms, the former only for Win32.

Harlequin Dylan is not yet released, and Gwydion Dylan doesn't support
multithreading. But programming Dylan is fun, if you can live with the
(few) restrictions.

Andreas

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The obvious mathematical breakthrough [to break modern encryption]
would be development of an easy way to factor large prime numbers.

        -- Bill Gates from "The Road Ahead," p. 265.



Mon, 18 Sep 2000 03:00:00 GMT  
 Dylan on Win32, Linux?



 First the Vorlon-like answers...

Quote:
>I just wonder if any of you have programmed with dylan

   Yes.

Quote:
>  ...... and what do you think of it.

   Yes.

 Longer answer...

  I'm not sure anyone who is overjoyed with C++ would be "happy" with
  Dylan, though.  However, I don't really wish to get into a "less filling ...
  tastes great" debate about the two.

  On John Ousterhout's scripting/systems continuum (**),

   Scripting                                                 System Programming
     |---------------------------------------------------------------------|
   Tcl                                            Java                  C++ C
   Perl                                                                  Ada
                                                                       Modula-3
             |<------------------- Dylan -------------------------->|

  one could use Dylan over a broad range.  Whether this
  is a blessing or a curse depends upon your point of view.

  Dylan can be used to hook components together in a "typeless" scripting
  fashion.  Or one can be quite explicit with types/objects like C++.
  The comparisons with Java on the Harlequin site are somewhat indicative
  that the Java and Dylan overlap in range more than any of the others
  listed above.

  Dylan doesn't provide the "raw machine" model that C ( and C++ in its
  backward compatible modes) makes available.  Nor have the libraries
  been "aged" to a vintage state of "refinement" that the "older" scripting
  languages enjoy.  The former keeps it from extending more to the right
  and the latter to the more to the left.

  With time and stable development environments more extensive libraries will
  appear. A more strict/static/pedantic subset of the language and a
  specialized runtime support would probably be conducive to more coverage to
  the right.

  (**) http://www.scriptics.com/people/john.ousterhout/scripting.html

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Sat, 23 Sep 2000 03:00:00 GMT  
 Dylan on Win32, Linux?


Quote:
>   (**) http://www.scriptics.com/people/john.ousterhout/scripting.html

... a document which made me believe that Ousterhout didn't really
grasp the concept of dynamic types. But then again, look at the
"success" of Tcl vcompared to perl.

Andreas

--
The obvious mathematical breakthrough [to break modern encryption]
would be development of an easy way to factor large prime numbers.

        -- Bill Gates from "The Road Ahead," p. 265.



Sat, 23 Sep 2000 03:00:00 GMT  
 
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