Clarion, .NET & Clarion

.NET & Clarion

Author	Message
Carl de Bill #1 / 8	.NET & Clarion Does anybody know if Softvelocity is planning a .NET version of Clarion ? Carl.
Tue, 23 Mar 2004 00:57:17 GMT

James Cook #2 / 8	.NET & Clarion Nothing's been mentioned so far, not hints have been made etc. -- Kind regards, James Cooke ================================= Does anybody know if Softvelocity is planning a .NET version of Clarion ? Carl.
Tue, 23 Mar 2004 01:04:02 GMT

Ron Schofiel #3 / 8	.NET & Clarion I hope that SoftVelocity does not spend any time or resources on .NET until MS has decided what they are going to do with it. The recently put off the by two years the next version of Windows, which will be the first .NET OS. That will be 2005. Also I have seen that .NET is closely tied to C# and any other languages that want to run with the CLR, will have to have the languages modified to fit into MS language rules. If you want .NET that bad, SV has already given you the tools to write C# code. Just learn the template language. SV should put their focus on updating the Template language instead of .NET Ron Quote: > Does anybody know if Softvelocity is planning a .NET version of > Clarion ? Carl.
Tue, 23 Mar 2004 03:50:57 GMT

Tim Shelto #4 / 8	.NET & Clarion But there are a lot of advantages to having Clarion on .Net. Here a few in my opinion 1. 32 bit IDE that SV doesn't have to mess with much 2. Intellisense editing 3. Easily create web forms and finally chunk the app broker 4. Acceptance in the community -- We become .net programmers. Every language compiles to the CLR. We will be on equal footing with all other languages. There is even RPG for .Net why not Clarion? Quote: > I hope that SoftVelocity does not spend any time or resources on .NET > until MS has decided what they are going to do with it. The recently put > off the by two years the next version of Windows, which will be the > first .NET OS. That will be 2005. Also I have seen that .NET is closely > tied to C# and any other languages that want to run with the CLR, will > have to have the languages modified to fit into MS language rules. > If you want .NET that bad, SV has already given you the tools to write > C# code. Just learn the template language. SV should put their focus on > updating the Template language instead of .NET > Ron > > Does anybody know if Softvelocity is planning a .NET version of > > Clarion ? Carl.
Tue, 23 Mar 2004 04:58:11 GMT

Russell B. Egge #5 / 8	.NET & Clarion Tim, IIRC at a user group meeting a few months back, we were informed that SV has two choices in this area: 1) Make a .NET IDE (compiler, interpretor, etc). 2) Use existing technology to generate .NET compatible languages. Seems option two is far cheaper and faster to market <g> -- Russ "My spell checker makes it read more better" But there are a lot of advantages to having Clarion on .Net. Here a few in my opinion 1. 32 bit IDE that SV doesn't have to mess with much 2. Intellisense editing 3. Easily create web forms and finally chunk the app broker 4. Acceptance in the community -- We become .net programmers. Every language compiles to the CLR. We will be on equal footing with all other languages. There is even RPG for .Net why not Clarion?
Tue, 23 Mar 2004 05:17:33 GMT

Tim Shelto #6 / 8	.NET & Clarion I can see where that would be faster to market, but I see it as a temporary interium solution. After Clarion 5.6 comes out and all the threading issues are overcome, bite the bullet and go all .net. Microsoft is working with any vendor who wants to put their product on .Net. Let MS worry about the IDE, de{filter} as so forth, and let SV focus on the meat of the compiler and the language. I am sure that I am making this sound simple, but it probably is a HUGE endeavor. However, rewriting the IDE and de{filter} for C6 in 32 bit is not a small task either. Tim Quote: > Tim, > IIRC at a user group meeting a few months back, we were informed that SV has > two choices in this area: > 1) Make a .NET IDE (compiler, interpretor, etc). > 2) Use existing technology to generate .NET compatible languages. > Seems option two is far cheaper and faster to market <g> > -- > Russ > "My spell checker makes it read more better" > But there are a lot of advantages to having Clarion on .Net. Here a few in > my opinion > 1. 32 bit IDE that SV doesn't have to mess with much > 2. Intellisense editing > 3. Easily create web forms and finally chunk the app broker > 4. Acceptance in the community -- We become .net programmers. Every > language compiles to the CLR. We will be on equal footing with all other > languages. > There is even RPG for .Net why not Clarion?
Tue, 23 Mar 2004 05:22:43 GMT

Ron Schofiel #7 / 8	.NET & Clarion Quote: > But there are a lot of advantages to having Clarion on .Net. Here a few in > my opinion > 1. 32 bit IDE that SV doesn't have to mess with much Which doesn't have the ability to use template languages. So you are back to hand coding your apps. Quote: > 2. Intellisense editing Why edit when you have your IDE generate your code for you. Quote: > 3. Easily create web forms and finally chunk the app broker > 4. Acceptance in the community -- We become .net programmers. Every > language compiles to the CLR. We will be on equal footing with all other > languages. Not all programming languages will work with .NET and actually few have been able to work with .NET without either loosing the features of the language or having to rewrite additional elements into the language. Examples of this are Perl.NET and Python.NET. Both are currently unusable unless either Perl or python changes or .NET changes. Quote: > There is even RPG for .Net why not Clarion? > > I hope that SoftVelocity does not spend any time or resources on .NET > > until MS has decided what they are going to do with it. The recently put > > off the by two years the next version of Windows, which will be the > > first .NET OS. That will be 2005. Also I have seen that .NET is closely > > tied to C# and any other languages that want to run with the CLR, will > > have to have the languages modified to fit into MS language rules. > > If you want .NET that bad, SV has already given you the tools to write > > C# code. Just learn the template language. SV should put their focus on > > updating the Template language instead of .NET > > Ron > > > Does anybody know if Softvelocity is planning a .NET version of > > > Clarion ? Carl.
Tue, 23 Mar 2004 05:30:24 GMT

Russell B. Egge #8 / 8	.NET & Clarion I think you will be able to make .NET apps with what they are thinking. I can't comment on the details as I have none. Until .NET is released, I would not expect any details anyway. It is a moving target at this stage. I do like the premise behind it, just a matter of making it a reality. -- Russ "My spell checker makes it read more better" I can see where that would be faster to market, but I see it as a temporary interium solution. After Clarion 5.6 comes out and all the threading issues are overcome, bite the bullet and go all .net. Microsoft is working with any vendor who wants to put their product on .Net. Let MS worry about the IDE, de{filter} as so forth, and let SV focus on the meat of the compiler and the language. I am sure that I am making this sound simple, but it probably is a HUGE endeavor. However, rewriting the IDE and de{filter} for C6 in 32 bit is not a small task either. Tim
Tue, 23 Mar 2004 07:52:13 GMT

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