Which version of VB for high school lab? 
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 Which version of VB for high school lab?

Hello,

Apologies in advance if this topic has been covered but I haven't kept
up with the group and I need a quick answer.  I teach an intro to
computer systems class at a high school.  We cover programming.  I am
currently teaching it using QBasic.  Someone not technically adept
bought the software and 30 books three years ago.  The students hate
it.  The DOS stuff turns them off immediately and I struggle the whole
term with it.

We now have a grant to purchase new software.  The problem is the lab
computers are 233's with 32 meg of ram.  We run Windows 98.  This
won't support .Net and I am not sure I want to get that cutting edge
with the 9th graders.  I would like to use an older version of VB but
the Microsoft web site doesn't show any old versions for sale.

Question:  Can I still get an older version of VB, say version 5.0,
that I can run on the existing machines?

Any ideas about the situation are welcome.  Should I consider doing a
Visual C++ class instead.  I want to prepare the students with
something more up to date than QBasic.  Not all of the students are
tecnically adapt as this is an Intro class.

Thanks,
Larry



Sat, 11 Dec 2004 08:06:47 GMT  
 Which version of VB for high school lab?
You can still get VB6 from microsoft which is available as a downgrade after
purchasing VB.net see
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vbasic/productinfo/previous/downgrade.asp

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Norman Menard


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Sat, 11 Dec 2004 08:23:48 GMT  
 Which version of VB for high school lab?
You can purchase copies of earlier versions from various software vendors --
I see quite a few of them at "sidewalk computer sales" (we are blessed with
several here in the Dallas-Fort Worth area); you can also look on eBay for
back (or, as I am sure Microsoft considers them, obsolescent) versions --
some may be used, some will still be in shrink wrap; one company I know that
does mail order and _might_ have older versions is
http://www.computersworth.com.

For an introductory course, if you don't want to produce executables that
you can move to another machine, you may still be able to download, free, VB
5 Control Creation Edition (CCE) from Microsoft. I wouldn't even hazard a
guess _where_ on Microsoft's site it would be, if it is still available.

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Quote:

> Hello,

> Apologies in advance if this topic has been covered but I haven't kept
> up with the group and I need a quick answer.  I teach an intro to
> computer systems class at a high school.  We cover programming.  I am
> currently teaching it using QBasic.  Someone not technically adept
> bought the software and 30 books three years ago.  The students hate
> it.  The DOS stuff turns them off immediately and I struggle the whole
> term with it.

> We now have a grant to purchase new software.  The problem is the lab
> computers are 233's with 32 meg of ram.  We run Windows 98.  This
> won't support .Net and I am not sure I want to get that cutting edge
> with the 9th graders.  I would like to use an older version of VB but
> the Microsoft web site doesn't show any old versions for sale.

> Question:  Can I still get an older version of VB, say version 5.0,
> that I can run on the existing machines?

> Any ideas about the situation are welcome.  Should I consider doing a
> Visual C++ class instead.  I want to prepare the students with
> something more up to date than QBasic.  Not all of the students are
> tecnically adapt as this is an Intro class.

> Thanks,
> Larry



Sat, 11 Dec 2004 09:35:13 GMT  
 Which version of VB for high school lab?
why not use the grant money for something useful and use a free language.
some of these have nice ide's, and are better learning languages as well.
python (www.python.org) and Ruby come to mind.  further, i bet some of the
commercial gui builder makers will make you a deal if building guis is so
important.

-d

Quote:

> Hello,

> Apologies in advance if this topic has been covered but I haven't kept
> up with the group and I need a quick answer.  I teach an intro to
> computer systems class at a high school.  We cover programming.  I am
> currently teaching it using QBasic.  Someone not technically adept
> bought the software and 30 books three years ago.  The students hate
> it.  The DOS stuff turns them off immediately and I struggle the whole
> term with it.

> We now have a grant to purchase new software.  The problem is the lab
> computers are 233's with 32 meg of ram.  We run Windows 98.  This
> won't support .Net and I am not sure I want to get that cutting edge
> with the 9th graders.  I would like to use an older version of VB but
> the Microsoft web site doesn't show any old versions for sale.

> Question:  Can I still get an older version of VB, say version 5.0,
> that I can run on the existing machines?

> Any ideas about the situation are welcome.  Should I consider doing a
> Visual C++ class instead.  I want to prepare the students with
> something more up to date than QBasic.  Not all of the students are
> tecnically adapt as this is an Intro class.

> Thanks,
> Larry



Sat, 11 Dec 2004 12:45:49 GMT  
 
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