Standalone Executables and Win98 
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 Standalone Executables and Win98

I read that Win98 comes with the VB5 runtime files already
installed -- is that so?  Because if it's true, does this
mean we can simply distribute our "program.exe" files now
without needing to include the runtime dll's?  (For Win98
users, that is).

Paul.



Mon, 15 Jan 2001 03:00:00 GMT  
 Standalone Executables and Win98
I've just installed Windows 98 (and nothing else) and the only *VB* file it
ships with is

VBScript.DLL



Mon, 15 Jan 2001 03:00:00 GMT  
 Standalone Executables and Win98
Yes it does.  Windows 98 comes with the vb5 runtimes and many of the OCXs.
If it wasn't installed during installation then it can be extracted out of
the cab files.  They are there.  I've been using the full install, its been
a while since i installed an upgrade, so maybe that's the difference here :)

..Tummy..
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Quote:

>I read that Win98 comes with the VB5 runtime files already
>installed -- is that so?  Because if it's true, does this
>mean we can simply distribute our "program.exe" files now
>without needing to include the runtime dll's?  (For Win98
>users, that is).

>Paul.



Mon, 15 Jan 2001 03:00:00 GMT  
 Standalone Executables and Win98
What you might be thinking of is the Windows Scripting Host that comes built
in to win98.  You can write VB Scripts and run them (obviously without
compiling them).  Simply open a text file, write the script, save it with a
VBS extension (You can also do it with Java script) and there you go.  it's
actually quite useful from an administration point of view, but
unfortunately, it's not the VB5 runtime files.


Quote:
>I've just installed Windows 98 (and nothing else) and the only *VB* file it
>ships with is

>VBScript.DLL



Mon, 15 Jan 2001 03:00:00 GMT  
 Standalone Executables and Win98
I have Win98 Full Version, and VB5(SP3) both on the same computer.  I
created a small app (22k) and copied JUST THE APP to a floppy, took the
floppy to a friends house (who did a clean install of Win98), I copied JUST
THE APP from the floppy to his computer, then I ran the app from his
computer.... guess what..... it worked!!!  No setup no nothing, and yes I
had a few standard controls in the exe.
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Quote:

>I read that Win98 comes with the VB5 runtime files already
>installed -- is that so?  Because if it's true, does this
>mean we can simply distribute our "program.exe" files now
>without needing to include the runtime dll's?  (For Win98
>users, that is).

>Paul.



Mon, 15 Jan 2001 03:00:00 GMT  
 Standalone Executables and Win98

Quote:
> I have Win98 Full Version, and VB5(SP3) both on the same computer.  I
> created a small app (22k) and copied JUST THE APP to a floppy, took the
> floppy to a friends house (who did a clean install of Win98), I copied JUST
> THE APP from the floppy to his computer, then I ran the app from his
> computer.... guess what..... it worked!!!  No setup no nothing, and yes I
> had a few standard controls in the exe.

Excellent news!  Finally, VB5 standalone executables!  :)

Paul.

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Tue, 16 Jan 2001 03:00:00 GMT  
 Standalone Executables and Win98

Quote:
>Subject: Re: Standalone Executables and Win98

>Date: 7/30/98 8:22 PM Central Daylight Time


>> I have Win98 Full Version, and VB5(SP3) both on the same computer.  I
>> created a small app (22k) and copied JUST THE APP to a floppy, took the
>> floppy to a friends house (who did a clean install of Win98), I copied JUST
>> THE APP from the floppy to his computer, then I ran the app from his
>> computer.... guess what..... it worked!!!  No setup no nothing, and yes I
>> had a few standard controls in the exe.

>Excellent news!  Finally, VB5 standalone executables!  :)

Huh?   You can *not* create standalone executibles in Visual Basic.  You never
could.  What's happened here is that Microsoft is now including the VB5 support
files as part of Windows 98.  


Tue, 16 Jan 2001 03:00:00 GMT  
 Standalone Executables and Win98

Quote:
> >Excellent news!  Finally, VB5 standalone executables!  :)

> Huh?   You can *not* create standalone executibles in Visual Basic.  You
never
> could.  What's happened here is that Microsoft is now including the VB5
support
> files as part of Windows 98.  

Yeah, I know that, but for all intents and purposes we now have the option
of only distributing the exe and marking the software as Win98-only, which
is GREAT NEWS!

It means we'll starting seeing software on web sites like so:

Click HERE to download BLAH.ZIP for Win98 (20 K)
Click HERE to download BLAH.ZIP for Win95 (1.5 MB)

Now you can't tell me that's not good!  :)

Paul.

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Tue, 16 Jan 2001 03:00:00 GMT  
 Standalone Executables and Win98

Quote:
>Yeah, I know that, but for all intents and purposes we now have the option
>of only distributing the exe and marking the software as Win98-only, which
>is GREAT NEWS!

Telling people your software is for Windows 98 only is great news???  What
about people using Windows 95 and NT?


Tue, 16 Jan 2001 03:00:00 GMT  
 Standalone Executables and Win98

Quote:
> Telling people your software is for Windows 98 only is great news???  What
> about people using Windows 95 and NT?

You didn't read my previous post fully... read it again.

Paul.

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Tue, 16 Jan 2001 03:00:00 GMT  
 Standalone Executables and Win98
That is exactly what I plan on doing....
distributing like so...
Win98 Version - myapp.exe - 20k
Win95 Version - myapp.zip - 1.5+mb
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"We kick ass so you don't have to"
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Quote:


>> >You didn't read my previous post fully... read it again.

>> I stand corrected.

>No worries matey!  :)

>Paul.

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Tue, 16 Jan 2001 03:00:00 GMT  
 Standalone Executables and Win98
I would not bet the farm on VB5 support being included in Windows '98.
Has anyone seen this in Microsoft documentation anywhere? Has anyone
done a _minimal_ install of Win98 on a freshly formatted machine and
verified that it supported basic VB5 programs?

If it is true, has anyone seen any documentation about _what_ VB5
functionality is supported? DAO? RDO? What controls?

What about VB6?

If it sounds too good to be true...

Quote:

> That is exactly what I plan on doing....
> distributing like so...
> Win98 Version - myapp.exe - 20k
> Win95 Version - myapp.zip - 1.5+mb
> --
> Gunner
> Semper Fi
> MCSFBN FAST CO NORVA
> "We kick ass so you don't have to"
> --



> >> >You didn't read my previous post fully... read it again.

> >> I stand corrected.

> >No worries matey!  :)

> >Paul.

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Tue, 16 Jan 2001 03:00:00 GMT  
 Standalone Executables and Win98

Quote:
>You didn't read my previous post fully... read it again.

>Paul.

I stand corrected.


Wed, 17 Jan 2001 03:00:00 GMT  
 Standalone Executables and Win98

Quote:
> >You didn't read my previous post fully... read it again.

> I stand corrected.

No worries matey!  :)

Paul.

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Wed, 17 Jan 2001 03:00:00 GMT  
 Standalone Executables and Win98

schreibt:

Quote:
>Click HERE to download BLAH.ZIP for Win98 (20 K)

That option is independent from the OS. Once you have installed the VB5 runtime
and support files, it's only a waste of time and disk space to download these
components with every new application.

VB finally should allow to create a minimum setup kit for every application,
that would ask the user to download and install additional components, not yet
found on the system.

DoDi



Wed, 17 Jan 2001 03:00:00 GMT  
 
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