I would like to suggest these groups (alt.binaries.examples.{vb4, vcpp, java}) for admittance into the
alt heirarchy.  If I can only make one, then I would like for that one to be alt.binaries.examples.vb4.  This
(or These) newsgroup(s) will *not* be moderated.

REASONS BEHIND ALT.BINARIES.EXAMPLES.VB4:
        I have been reading the various newsgroups devoted to Visual Basic and I see a lot of people requesting
code to learn by and wanting to post their code for others to see (and learn from or tear apart for bugs).  
This is why there should be a binaries group for this purpose, for people to send their code snippets to and
for others to find code.

REASONS BEHIND ALT.BINARIES.EXAMPLES.VCPP:
        The reasons for this group are the same as for alt.binaries.examples.vb4.  There should be a binaries
group for people to upload code snippets to.

REASONS BEHIND ALT.BINARIES.EXAMPLES.JAVA:
        The reasons for this group are the same as for alt.binaries.examples.vb4.  There *should* be a binaries
group for people to upload code snippets to.  Also, java is growing as a programming language and having code
snippets in one place (ie. this newsgroup) would be an invaluable service to people who want to use java (or
javascript) in their web pages.

        I thank you for listening to this Proposal.  I would like some help creating these groups...so please,
email me your comments.  Also, if someone could email me on how to actually send the control message to create
them, I would be greatly appreciative!

Ken

Don't limit it to VB4, there are a LOT of VB3 users! :) and VBDOS users too!
Or even better an  alt.binaries.basic..

I think comp.binaries.basic sounds better actually. :^)

Cheers :)
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Also, VB forms at least have a binary section, even if you do save as text.
From what I recall, c.l.b.v.m already has small posts of source, just like
in _any_ language group.  However, large programs are not welcome.

Oh, it should be `vb', not `vb4'.  vb3 is superior to vb4 im many ways, ime.
There is no reason to put versioning in newsgroup names -- what are you
going to do when vb5 comes out?  Add yet _another_ newsgroup to the 15000?

You could probably create a `proper' group, like comp.sources.ms-windows ?
Then create something else for Java.

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My vote would be for comp.binaries.vb

?? any one else ??
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[Lots of reasons]

My only reason for NOT wanting this is that there are FTP servers around.
USENET binaries create more net traffic than FTP binaries, so there!

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So what's a binary example (not an example of a binary), and what makes it
so special from any other kind of binary?  Have you considered using
"programming" rather than "examples"?

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