I had a weird on happen over the weekend. I'm using Oracle Objects (which came with Oracle8 Enterprise) and have been quite pleased with it thus far. I used the Oracle Data Control for the first time this weekend and lets just say it was a serious PAIN. For whatever reason, the DC would refresh itself and then immediatly close the connection to the server. The very second I tried to move to the next record VB would throw a major fit and exit to the OS (NT Workstation 4, SP 3). The DC was being used in conjunction with Sheridan Datawidgets (their dbgrid) in bound mode. [Turns out that I wouldn't have been able to use the DC with the Grid anyway -- when doing multi table joins with the DC the result set isn't updatable.] I eventually gave up on the bound mode and just filled the grid manually. More work than I needed to do. has anyone else had this problem? If so, what's the fix?