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A free bug tracking service for developers, testers and QA teams. Helps you
to track and prioritize your bugs and features. Very easy to use.

Check it out: http://www.*-*-*.com/



Thu, 07 Mar 2002 03:00:00 GMT  
 Free bug tracking tool

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>A free bug tracking service for developers, testers and QA teams. Helps you
>to track and prioritize your bugs and features. Very easy to use.

This is, IMO, indicative of today's programmers in general. How does one
prioritize a bug? Bugs are to be done away with as quickly and smoothly as
possible! There IS no prioritization required, they ALL need to go unless,
maybe, you want to leave/build a few in so you can sell version 2?

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Fri, 08 Mar 2002 03:00:00 GMT  
 Free bug tracking tool

says...

Quote:

> >A free bug tracking service for developers, testers and QA teams. Helps you
> >to track and prioritize your bugs and features. Very easy to use.

> This is, IMO, indicative of today's programmers in general. How does one
> prioritize a bug? Bugs are to be done away with as quickly and smoothly as
> possible! There IS no prioritization required, they ALL need to go unless,
> maybe, you want to leave/build a few in so you can sell version 2?

Ahh, if it were only so easy....  <smile>

Sometimes a "non-critical" bug does not need to be dealt with
immediately.  It can simply be catalogued and fixed at a more convenient
time.

In very large programming projects, it doesn't pay to immediately fix a
bug and release a new version.  This is particularly true after the
initial release of a product.  Instead, you fix each bug as it's
identified, but wait a while before shipping the bug fix (if none of the
bugs are critical).  Otherwise, the expense of shipping 10 to 15
different versions can overwhelm you.

With stuff like shareware where distribution is entirely internet based,
it's easy to to quick updates like this, but when you have a customer
base that's only 60% on the internet, you learn to time things better to
reduce costs.

--Dave



Fri, 08 Mar 2002 03:00:00 GMT  
 Free bug tracking tool


Quote:

> >A free bug tracking service for developers, testers and QA teams. Helps
you
> >to track and prioritize your bugs and features. Very easy to use.

> This is, IMO, indicative of today's programmers in general. How does one
> prioritize a bug? Bugs are to be done away with as quickly and smoothly as
> possible! There IS no prioritization required, they ALL need to go unless,
> maybe, you want to leave/build a few in so you can sell version 2?

There's something very wrong when you need software to keep track of all of
the bugs in your software. . . I wonder what you use to keep track of the
bugs in the bug-tracking software ?

Regards,

Jimmy Shoehorn



Fri, 08 Mar 2002 03:00:00 GMT  
 Free bug tracking tool

Quote:
>There's something very wrong when you need software to keep track of all of
>the bugs in your software. . . I wonder what you use to keep track of the
>bugs in the bug-tracking software ?

Not necessarily.....

When I was general manager of a software firm, our software was thir{*filter*} or
four{*filter*} major modules, with perhaps thirty separate programs per module -
about one million lines of source code altogether. When we found bugs, we
needed to record them for several reasons:

1. So that the support people and users could be aware of them. We had
support people in two cities, so keeping both groups informed was even a bit
more difficult than were they all in the same room.
2. So that programmers doing a customized ("tailored" is a preferred
euphemism) version of a program would know there was a bug in the code they
were working on and could do a temporary patch.
3. Because a "bug" in one program like a print report or a screen inquiry
may not be a bug in *that* program - it was, in fact, a bug in a different
program which only shows up in a later program. We would then need to find
"all the bugs in a certain program" so we could make one fix without
skipping another fixable problem, or worse yet, introducing a new bug
because of a previous fix. Not to mention, fixing the bug in one program may
require changes in other programs *down* the processing stream.

As Dave Navarro pointed out, when you have a large user base, an immediate
release for every little fix is an administrative nightmare; and when as
many as 90 percent of the users never run into the bug, it is a hassle for
them as well, because now they have to make fresh 'program file' backups. (I
wish pc-software vendors had a mainframe 'ZAP'-like utility or could let you
just re-link your program for small fixes instead of requiring a complete
release. Then I could just back up the 'zapfile' and not bother with the
full program backup).

As a last case for using software to track bugs, consider the task of
assigning 'fix duty' in the "bug is in program one, but you don't see it
until you've run programs two, three and four" situation.  You need to
assign all fixes in the family to the same person, as they often cannot
technically and almost never logistically be done 'in parallel' and must be
done 'in series.'

At my firm, it was not inconceivable that there could be at ony one time as
many as two hundred individual programs requiring action; while some people
might be able to remember all that, I never could, so I used database
software to track it for me.

Michael Mattias
Tal Systems
Racine WI USA



Fri, 08 Mar 2002 03:00:00 GMT  
 Free bug tracking tool


<snip>

Quote:
>At my firm, it was not inconceivable that there could be at ony one time as
>many as two hundred individual programs requiring action; while some people
>might be able to remember all that, I never could, so I used database
>software to track it for me.

Great-Grandma was right! Life is like soup; ain't no good unless you stir it
once in a while.
<grin>

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  |  _ \  / \  / ___) __ | ___)(_   _) Don Schullian

  |____//_/ \_\(____/\__/|_|     |_|    www.DASoftVSS.com
  ___________________________________   www.basicguru.com
      Vertical Software Solutions



Sat, 09 Mar 2002 03:00:00 GMT  
 Free bug tracking tool

Quote:

>> This is, IMO, indicative of today's programmers in general. How does one
>> prioritize a bug? Bugs are to be done away with as quickly and smoothly as
>> possible! There IS no prioritization required, they ALL need to go unless,
>> maybe, you want to leave/build a few in so you can sell version 2?

>Ahh, if it were only so easy....  <smile>

>Sometimes a "non-critical" bug does not need to be dealt with
>immediately.  It can simply be catalogued and fixed at a more convenient
>time.

>In very large programming projects, it doesn't pay to immediately fix a
>bug and release a new version.  This is particularly true after the
>initial release of a product.  Instead, you fix each bug as it's
>identified, but wait a while before shipping the bug fix (if none of the
>bugs are critical).  Otherwise, the expense of shipping 10 to 15
>different versions can overwhelm you.

>With stuff like shareware where distribution is entirely internet based,
>it's easy to to quick updates like this, but when you have a customer
>base that's only 60% on the internet, you learn to time things better to
>reduce costs.

...Also tech support problems ("that bug was fixed in rev 32.98.23.02c,
but doing so brought back the bug we fixed in rev 32.98.24.76a.  Have
you tried rev 32.98.23.04w, or are speed of light limitations stopping
you from getting bug fixes as quickly as we produce them?)

What I *do* like is an online known bug database, with info on how to
reproduce it, a tech discussion, and possible workarounds.  That
really helps.



Tue, 12 Mar 2002 03:00:00 GMT  
 
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