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101 Basic Games (David Ahl)

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Bev #1 / 22	101 Basic Games (David Ahl) Anybody have any idea about where to find either the book itself or listings of individual games or scans or photocopies? I'm particularly interested in the listing for 'cubic.' I've already checked Amazon, B&N, various archives and websites, D. Ahl, and dejanews. Feh! -- Thanks, Bev 6666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666 Vampireware; n, a project capable of sucking the life{filter} out of anyone unfortunate enough to be assigned to it, which never actually sees the light of day, but nonetheless refuses to die. -- Bill Cavanaugh
Sun, 23 Feb 2003 12:52:33 GMT

jdm #2 / 22	101 Basic Games (David Ahl) I used to have that book years ago, darn it. Do you mean you actually contacted Ahl, or that you were unable to find a contact for him? If it's the latter, try this link Also, there is a cubic.bas listed at this link, but I don't know if it's the same one: http://people.fix.no/arj/qbasic/ John M.
Mon, 24 Feb 2003 01:21:21 GMT

Bev #3 / 22	101 Basic Games (David Ahl) Quote: > I used to have that book years ago, darn it. Do you mean you actually > contacted Ahl, or that you were unable to find a contact for him? If it's > the latter, try this link That's the address I tried. No response yet. Quote: > Also, there is a cubic.bas listed at this link, but I don't know if it's the > same one: > http://people.fix.no/arj/qbasic/ Thanks, I'll pass on the message... -- Cheers, Bev ...so few snipers, so many politicians...
Mon, 24 Feb 2003 06:31:39 GMT

Tim Hilloc #4 / 22	101 Basic Games (David Ahl) Nope, that's not the program. In the book it's called Cube (travel across a 3-D cube). Inside Book Cover: 101 BASIC Computer Games editied by David H. Ahl Digital Equipment Corporation Maynard, Massachusetts on another page: for additional copies Creative Computing PO Box 789-m Morristown, N.J. 07960 Digital Equipment Corporation Maynard, Massachusetts 01754 Bought this book in the late 70's. I haven't seen any Creative Computing issues in a long time. They may still be around. Sorry, I don't have a scanner or the program saved. I bought the book when I had a Radio Shack TRS-80 model I. I never had a way to move my basic programs to the PC. -- Tim Remember the 21st Century starts January 1st 2001 Quote: > I used to have that book years ago, darn it. Do you mean you actually > contacted Ahl, or that you were unable to find a contact for him? If it's > the latter, try this link > Also, there is a cubic.bas listed at this link, but I don't know if it's the > same one: > http://people.fix.no/arj/qbasic/ > John M.
Mon, 24 Feb 2003 06:48:43 GMT

Michael Mattia #5 / 22	101 Basic Games (David Ahl) Your local public library probably has a number of BASIC-language books. -- Michael Mattias Tal Systems Racine WI USA Quote: > Anybody have any idea about where to find either the book itself or > listings of individual games or scans or photocopies? I'm particularly > interested in the listing for 'cubic.' > I've already checked Amazon, B&N, various archives and websites, D. Ahl, > and dejanews. Feh! > --
Mon, 24 Feb 2003 07:49:37 GMT

Walt, Southern California, US #6 / 22	101 Basic Games (David Ahl) Quote: > Your local public library probably has a number of BASIC-language books. Unless you're in my part of Southern California. My local library doesn't have many BASIC books, and the few they do have are from 1978 - 1981. Reminds me of my college library -- I don't think they've bought ANY books in about five years, either. Walt -- SPAM BLOCKING IN EFFECT: Only those in my address book can send me mail. If you go to bed with an itchy butt, you'll wake up with a smelly finger. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
Mon, 24 Feb 2003 16:03:08 GMT

nikos.. #7 / 22	101 Basic Games (David Ahl) I've had good luck finding used techie books at www.alibris.com which lists a wide selection (but not this one unfortunately). Stephen Quote: > I would try eBay and other online auctions for a copy of the book. > I have had good luck finding out of print books at eBay, Amazon and > Yahoo!. You might also try used bookstores, many of whom have web > sites, or are entirely online. > -- > Sun Valley Systems http://www.sunvaley.com > "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that > whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life." > > Nope, that's not the program. In the book it's called Cube (travel > > across a 3-D cube). > > Inside Book Cover: > > 101 BASIC Computer Games > > editied by David H. Ahl > > Digital Equipment Corporation > > Maynard, Massachusetts > > on another page: > > for additional copies > > Creative Computing > > PO Box 789-m > > Morristown, N.J. 07960 > > Digital Equipment Corporation > > Maynard, Massachusetts 01754 > > Bought this book in the late 70's. I haven't seen any Creative Computing > > issues in a long time. They may still be around. > > Sorry, I don't have a scanner or the program saved. I bought the book when > > I had a Radio Shack TRS-80 model I. I never had a way to move my basic > > programs to the PC. > > Remember the 21st Century starts January 1st 2001 > > > I used to have that book years ago, darn it. Do you mean you actually > > > contacted Ahl, or that you were unable to find a contact for him? > > > If it's the latter, try this link > > > Also, there is a cubic.bas listed at this link, but I don't know if > > > it's the same one: > > > http://people.fix.no/arj/qbasic/ > > > John M. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
Tue, 25 Feb 2003 02:55:12 GMT

Walt, Southern California, US #8 / 22	101 Basic Games (David Ahl) Quote: > I would try eBay and other online auctions for a copy of the book. > I have had good luck finding out of print books at eBay, Amazon and > Yahoo!. You might also try used bookstores, many of whom have web > sites, or are entirely online. The one I usually find things at is fatbrain.com. -- SPAM BLOCKING IN EFFECT: Only those in my address book can send me mail. http://www.deja.com/~c_and_cplusplus/ http://www.deja.com/~bpb/ Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
Tue, 25 Feb 2003 11:31:20 GMT

Derek Ros #9 / 22	101 Basic Games (David Ahl) Quote: > Found the Qubic listing (along with a lot of other games) here: > http://pdp-10.trailing-edge.com/www/lib10/0110/ > Thanks, and bon appetit! I'm glad you found it. However I'm not sure why you'd want to. Even allowing for the fact that it was written in an old dialect of BASIC, that program contained a lot of coding for very little game play. In fact I get the feeling with many of the programs in 'BASIC Computer Games (Microcomputer Edition)' - I've got the same edition as Judson - that they were "padded" to make the book bigger. No doubt I'm wrong. Cheers Derek
Wed, 26 Feb 2003 04:33:52 GMT

Tim Hilloc #10 / 22	101 Basic Games (David Ahl) Maybe she Likes it....maybe she remembered playing it a long time ago. I still play, from time to time, some form of Adventure or the ZORK text based games. Maybe it was for someone else. I remember playing many of those basic games. Yes they contained a lot of coding for little play. Some of them made you think and use your mind to figure out and picture things. Today's games contain many lines of coding too. You just don't see them. When these old basic games were written, memory was below for the earlier PCs (minicomputers as known then) less then 50K of RAM. You still had to load the operating system into memory as well. As then and now, some were better than others. -- Tim Remember the 21st Century starts January 1st 2001 Quote: > > Found the Qubic listing (along with a lot of other games) here: > > http://pdp-10.trailing-edge.com/www/lib10/0110/ > > Thanks, and bon appetit! > I'm glad you found it. However I'm not sure why you'd want to. Even > allowing for the fact that it was written in an old dialect of BASIC, that > program contained a lot of coding for very little game play. In fact I > get the feeling with many of the programs in 'BASIC Computer Games > (Microcomputer Edition)' - I've got the same edition as Judson - that they > were "padded" to make the book bigger. No doubt I'm wrong. > Cheers > Derek
Wed, 26 Feb 2003 06:44:37 GMT

Bill Hilema #11 / 22	101 Basic Games (David Ahl) Quote: > Maybe she Likes it....maybe she remembered playing it a long time ago. I > still play, from time to time, some form of Adventure or the ZORK text based > games. Maybe it was for someone else. I remember playing many of those > basic games. Yes they contained a lot of coding for little play. Some of > them made you think and use your mind to figure out and picture things. > Today's games contain many lines of coding too. You just don't see them. > When these old basic games were written, memory was below for the earlier > PCs (minicomputers as known then) less then 50K of RAM. You still had to > load the operating system into memory as well. As then and now, some were > better than others. > -- > Tim I'm sure I had the TRS-80 version of the book myself. I have no idea what happened to it, it's probably rotting away in my shed out back :-) I agree with you, I used to subscribe to Creative Computing, and another magazine, whose name eludes me, but was targeted at TRS-80, Apple, and Atari, and always published games. I was always so frustrated that I had the TRS-80 and Apple and Atari had color. Radio Shack later came out with the "CoCo" (Color Computer) and that magazine ran articles and code for that machine as well. I learned so much from those magazine way back then, even just from keying in code (and saving it to cassette tape!) I remember they used to have a 1k column where there'd be a program that literally took up only 1k of memory. Someone came up with this laser on a grid thing where these creatures would multiply, and you'd navigate the grid and shoot them with lasers. The idea was to get them all before another one would be "born" it was so cool and fun, and only 1024 bytes. I also loved a game called "International Bridge Contractors". I loved the game so much, that years later, when I got a Commodore 64 I ported the game to that computer. I had also had a Vic-20, but the smaller screen resolution made it not worthwhile to port it to that machine. I even ported the game to IBM PC when I finally got my first one back in 1983, and I still have it today, but haven't played it for years. Let's face it, when you've got so many other "modern" games, old text-based games get kinda boring :-) It still amazes me the games that programmer back then were able to put into such tiny code. I had a "Defender" type arcade game that I played on my TRS-80, and it only had 16k of RAM. Ah... the good ol' days -- Bill Hileman, Programmer/Analyst, DASI PROGRAM n. A magic spell cast over a computer allowing it to turn one's input into error messages. tr.v. To engage in a pastime similar to banging one's head against a wall, but with fewer opportunities for reward.
Wed, 26 Feb 2003 21:36:26 GMT

Judson McClendo #12 / 22	101 Basic Games (David Ahl) Quote: > I agree with you, I used to subscribe to Creative Computing, and another > magazine, whose name eludes me, but was targeted at TRS-80, Apple, and > Atari, and always published games. I was always so frustrated that I had > the TRS-80 and Apple and Atari had color. Radio Shack later came out with > the "CoCo" (Color Computer) and that magazine ran articles and code for that > machine as well. My favorite magazines from the late 70's and early 80's were Creative Computing, Kilobaud Microcomputing, Dr. Dobbs and Byte. The first two are dead and I eventually lost interest in DDJ and Byte. I later liked Computer Language, which also died. Sigh. Quote: > I learned so much from those magazine way back then, even just from keying > in code (and saving it to cassette tape!) Patience, no doubt. ;-) Quote: > It still amazes me the games that programmer back then were able to put > into such tiny code. I was a professional programmer for 10 years before I got my first Microcomputer in 1978 (nobody called them PCs until the IBM PC came out in 1981). But programming was more fun on my computer. Now I have more computing power in my house than most corporations had in 1978, but it's not as much fun. Sigh. The game programs popular today take many people months or years to design and create. The thing that was fun in those days is that one person could write something useful and fun without devoting years of their life to it. Those days were fun, and I remember them with nostalgia. :-) -- Sun Valley Systems http://www.sunvaley.com "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life."
Wed, 26 Feb 2003 22:05:27 GMT

fa.. #13 / 22	101 Basic Games (David Ahl) Quote: > get the feeling with many of the programs in 'BASIC Computer Games > (Microcomputer Edition)' - I've got the same edition as Judson - that they > were "padded" to make the book bigger. No doubt I'm wrong. Well, I never had this specific book, but, when I was in 5th grade (1985), I remember I got a book of basic games (several actually, and I borrowed some from the school library) which had incredibly bloated listings. Not all of them did, but I'd say at least half of the ones I got were "padded" .. I remember my dad was looking through it once, and managed to eliminate about 20% of the lines in it. Still, those sorts of things hold good memories, which is probably why she's after the book. :> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
Sat, 01 Mar 2003 04:49:03 GMT

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