Arranging toolbars 
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 Arranging toolbars

Hi Jim!

Yes, I too have seen unexpected behavior from the toolbar
positioning functionality. However I hasten to say that it
was unexpected *by me*, and it could easily have been the
expectation that was incompletely sophisticated :-)

I suspect you might have to set up a test suite and
exhaustively exercise that area to figure out a theory of
how it works.

I'd anticipate some amount of confusion stemming from
which branch of the UIObject model is in play (App.Builtin,
App.Custom, Doc.Custom), but you probably already know that,
and there may even be some awkward interaction between
CommandBars and UIObject model.

Especially important to understand will be what branch
gets updated if the user moves the tollbars, which
they're apt to do, and where that persists (supposedly
in App.Custom I think) and how it interacts with whatever
you set in Doc.Custom.

BTW -- would you vote for an option to lock the main menu and
*never* let it float?

Graham

Quote:

> I cannot seem to solve the arrangement of toolbars in
> Visio. We've created 3 toolbars of our own and they don't
> show up where we'd expect them to. I set visBarTop and
> position to visRowLast or even compute the last used row
> and increment it by one so I can place them at the end.
> Typically they show up above the Menubar.

> Any thoughts or suggestions?

> Thanks,
> Jim Behm

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Mon, 06 Sep 2004 09:34:49 GMT  
 Arranging toolbars
Hi Graham,

For the vote - yes I'd support the motion to leave menu
bars where they lay.

The toolbars are something we've been wrestling with for
quite some time. We're using Document custom UIObject -
no CommandBars. The thing that suprises me is that when I
place them at a particular row, they either show up on
separate rows below or above the menubar.

I also delete the toolbar information from the registry
so I get a fresh placement each time.

I'll keep plugging along. If you have any other thoughts
please post them.

Thanks,
Jim

Quote:
>-----Original Message-----
>Hi Jim!

>Yes, I too have seen unexpected behavior from the
toolbar
>positioning functionality. However I hasten to say that
it
>was unexpected *by me*, and it could easily have been the
>expectation that was incompletely sophisticated :-)

>I suspect you might have to set up a test suite and
>exhaustively exercise that area to figure out a theory of
>how it works.

>I'd anticipate some amount of confusion stemming from
>which branch of the UIObject model is in play
(App.Builtin,
>App.Custom, Doc.Custom), but you probably already know
that,
>and there may even be some awkward interaction between
>CommandBars and UIObject model.

>Especially important to understand will be what branch
>gets updated if the user moves the tollbars, which
>they're apt to do, and where that persists (supposedly
>in App.Custom I think) and how it interacts with
whatever
>you set in Doc.Custom.

>BTW -- would you vote for an option to lock the main
menu and
>*never* let it float?

>Graham


>> I cannot seem to solve the arrangement of toolbars in
>> Visio. We've created 3 toolbars of our own and they
don't
>> show up where we'd expect them to. I set visBarTop and
>> position to visRowLast or even compute the last used
row
>> and increment it by one so I can place them at the end.
>> Typically they show up above the Menubar.

>> Any thoughts or suggestions?

>> Thanks,
>> Jim Behm

>--
>--------------------------------------------
>Graham Wideman
>MS MVP for Visio
>Books:
>Visio 2000 Developer's Survival Guide
>Visio 2002 Developer's Survival Pack (with Tools)
>.... and resources for programmable diagramming at:
>http://www.diagramantics.com
>--------------------------------------------
>Unoffical Visio FAQ:
>http://www.diagramantics.com/diagenvs/visio/faq/index.htm

>(Remove the obvious to email me)
>---------------------------------------------
>.



Mon, 06 Sep 2004 21:16:23 GMT  
 
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