VBA, Deleting Masters in Document Stencil

Deleting Masters in Document Stencil

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Richard McIntos #1 / 7	Deleting Masters in Document Stencil Using VBA what code do I need to put in the "BeforeDocumentSave" procedure of Visio to delete all Masters in the Document Stencil?
Sat, 22 Mar 2003 03:00:00 GMT

Graham Wideman, MV #2 / 7	Deleting Masters in Document Stencil Richard: Quote: > Using VBA what code do I need to put in the "BeforeDocumentSave" procedure > of Visio to delete all Masters in the Document Stencil? You would need to iterate through the Document.Masters collection and delete each master. But are you sure you want to do this? Is it OK for the shapes on your drawing to lose their inheritance? Graham -------------------------------------------- Graham Wideman MS MVP for Visio Book: Visio 2000 Developer's Survival Guide ... and resources for programmable diagramming at: http://www.diagramantics.com -------------------------------------------- Unoffical Visio FAQ: http://www.diagramantics.com/diagenvs/visio/faq/index.htm (Remove the obvious to email me) ---------------------------------------------
Sun, 23 Mar 2003 03:00:00 GMT

Richard McIntos #3 / 7	Deleting Masters in Document Stencil We've been doing this manually for quite awhile with no apparent problems. Our drawings are quite detailed and can be 3 to 4 Megs each. When we delete the Document masters the file size goes as small as 1/3 to 1/4 the original size. This is great as we do alot of E-Mailing of these files. What exactly do we lose with the inheritance? Quote: > Richard: > > Using VBA what code do I need to put in the "BeforeDocumentSave" procedure > > of Visio to delete all Masters in the Document Stencil? > You would need to iterate through the Document.Masters collection and > delete each master. But are you sure you want to do this? Is it OK for > the shapes on your drawing to lose their inheritance? > Graham > -------------------------------------------- > Graham Wideman > MS MVP for Visio > Book: Visio 2000 Developer's Survival Guide > ... and resources for programmable diagramming at: > http://www.diagramantics.com > -------------------------------------------- > Unoffical Visio FAQ: > http://www.diagramantics.com/diagenvs/visio/faq/index.htm > (Remove the obvious to email me) > ---------------------------------------------
Sun, 23 Mar 2003 03:00:00 GMT

John Marshall, MV #4 / 7	Deleting Masters in Document Stencil The ability to propagate changes, but if these copies of the drawings are not to be updated then it is not a problem. John .... Visio MVP (Only responses to the newsgroups will be answered) Quote: > We've been doing this manually for quite awhile with no apparent problems. > Our drawings are quite detailed and can be 3 to 4 Megs each. When we delete > the Document masters the file size goes as small as 1/3 to 1/4 the original > size. This is great as we do alot of E-Mailing of these files. > What exactly do we lose with the inheritance? > > Richard: > > > Using VBA what code do I need to put in the "BeforeDocumentSave" > procedure > > > of Visio to delete all Masters in the Document Stencil? > > You would need to iterate through the Document.Masters collection and > > delete each master. But are you sure you want to do this? Is it OK for > > the shapes on your drawing to lose their inheritance? > > Graham > > -------------------------------------------- > > Graham Wideman > > MS MVP for Visio > > Book: Visio 2000 Developer's Survival Guide > > ... and resources for programmable diagramming at: > > http://www.diagramantics.com > > -------------------------------------------- > > Unoffical Visio FAQ: > > http://www.diagramantics.com/diagenvs/visio/faq/index.htm > > (Remove the obvious to email me) > > ---------------------------------------------
Mon, 24 Mar 2003 03:00:00 GMT

Graham Wideman, MV #5 / 7	Deleting Masters in Document Stencil Richard -- Quote: > We've been doing this manually for quite awhile with no apparent problems. > Our drawings are quite detailed and can be 3 to 4 Megs each. When we delete > the Document masters the file size goes as small as 1/3 to 1/4 the original > size. This is great as we do alot of E-Mailing of these files. That's an interesting puzzle! In theory, when you delete a master from local masters, that forces all shapes on the drawing to have their own copy of the data. So what you save in bytes by deleting the master you lose by needing to store copies of those bytes in each of the decendant shapes. So you would certainly save by deleting masters that are not refered to by any drawing shapes, such as shapes that you dropped at one time, but then decided to delete, leaving no shapes of that type for that master. But if this is not the source of the saving, this is a puzzle. I'm guessing that a master has a few more bytes than a shape (since a Master actually has similar structure to a Page + Shape(s)), but it's hard to explain a 1/3 or 1/4 file size! Graham -------------------------------------------- Graham Wideman MS MVP for Visio Book: Visio 2000 Developer's Survival Guide ... and resources for programmable diagramming at: http://www.diagramantics.com -------------------------------------------- Unoffical Visio FAQ: http://www.diagramantics.com/diagenvs/visio/faq/index.htm (Remove the obvious to email me) ---------------------------------------------
Tue, 25 Mar 2003 03:00:00 GMT

Richard McIntos #6 / 7	Deleting Masters in Document Stencil Well 1/3 to 1/4 the original size might be pushing it. I just did the following test: I created a new drawing and added 2 of my largest shapes and saved the file. It was 1,721,344 bytes. Opened the file and deleted the 2 master from the document stencil and resaved. The file size is now 765,952 Bytes. That's somewhere between 1/2 and 1/3. That's up to five minutes of downloading when attached to an E-mail using dial-up. Further I changed the pre-vu to draft and the file size became 734,720 bytes. Anybody have any other ideas on how to further reduce the file size. The smaller the better. Richard Quote: > Richard -- > > We've been doing this manually for quite awhile with no apparent problems. > > Our drawings are quite detailed and can be 3 to 4 Megs each. When we delete > > the Document masters the file size goes as small as 1/3 to 1/4 the original > > size. This is great as we do alot of E-Mailing of these files. > That's an interesting puzzle! In theory, when you delete a master from > local masters, that forces all shapes on the drawing to have their own > copy of the data. So what you save in bytes by deleting the master you > lose by needing to store copies of those bytes in each of the decendant > shapes. > So you would certainly save by deleting masters that are not refered to > by any drawing shapes, such as shapes that you dropped at one time, but > then decided to delete, leaving no shapes of that type for that master. > But if this is not the source of the saving, this is a puzzle. I'm > guessing that a master has a few more bytes than a shape (since a Master > actually has similar structure to a Page + Shape(s)), but it's hard to > explain a 1/3 or 1/4 file size! > Graham > -------------------------------------------- > Graham Wideman > MS MVP for Visio > Book: Visio 2000 Developer's Survival Guide > ... and resources for programmable diagramming at: > http://www.diagramantics.com > -------------------------------------------- > Unoffical Visio FAQ: > http://www.diagramantics.com/diagenvs/visio/faq/index.htm > (Remove the obvious to email me) > ---------------------------------------------
Wed, 26 Mar 2003 03:00:00 GMT

Graham Wideman, MV #7 / 7	Deleting Masters in Document Stencil Richard: 1.7 Meg! Holy cow, what do have in them thar shapes? Seriously, would you care to describe what kind of shapes these are? Are you using images? Huge amounts of text? Large embedded OLE objects? Or are they just incredibly elaborate? Graham -------------------------------------------- Graham Wideman MS MVP for Visio Book: Visio 2000 Developer's Survival Guide ... and resources for programmable diagramming at: http://www.diagramantics.com -------------------------------------------- Unoffical Visio FAQ: http://www.diagramantics.com/diagenvs/visio/faq/index.htm (Remove the obvious to email me) ---------------------------------------------
Wed, 26 Mar 2003 03:00:00 GMT

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